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MATHER family - Hamilton
« on: Thursday 06 November 08 23:00 GMT (UK) »
After a good number of years I think I have finally found a crack in my brick wall.

I am looking for information regarding Robert Mather, and his wife Janet Strang who he married in September 1770.  I believe they had 7 children.  I have birth dates for John (1771), Mary (1773), Cathrine (1776), James (1778), Janet (1780) and James (1782).  According to Janet's will on Scotlands People there also appears to be a son William but I cannot find any record of his birth.

I have found what I believe is John in the 1841 Census at Meikle Earnock aged 70 and again at Lowaters aged 80 in the 1851 Census.  He is shown as a Pauper in this latter record.  I need help in finding John's death which will help me confirm that I have eventually found the right family.

I would also appreciate any help in finding the birth records of both Robert and Janet and also Robert's death record.
Mather - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Hamilton - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Strang - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Barron - Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire
Vallance - Renfrewshire & Dunbartonshire
Lynch - Dunbartonshire
Marshall - Stirlingshire

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Re: MATHER family - Hamilton
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 November 08 02:14 GMT (UK) »
If it helps in any way, there are 2 monumental inscriptions in Hamilton parish churchyard -

1 - The burying place of William Mather and Jean McCrodie and their children 1805.

2 - 1841 Robert Mather.

both stones are "marker" stones, William and Jean wouldn't have died in 1805, and probably Robert wouldn't have died in 1841. It was very common for families to "mark their plot" so that it couldn't be claimed or used by others.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
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Re: MATHER family - Hamilton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 November 08 08:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Lodger.

I do have a note of a William Mather marrying a Jean McCreddie in 1797 which is the one I think you are referring to.  I don't think it is the same William.

I have also found a William Mather married to Katherine McGhie in 1816.  They had 6 children one of whom is called William Strang Mather.  I am inclined to think this is my William but cannot confirm without a birth date.

You also mention a marker stone for Robert Mather dated 1841.  My Robert , I beleive died in 1808 as Janet's "will" states she had an annuity since 15th May 1808.

Thanks again.

William
Mather - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Hamilton - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Strang - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Barron - Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire
Vallance - Renfrewshire & Dunbartonshire
Lynch - Dunbartonshire
Marshall - Stirlingshire

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Re: MATHER family - Hamilton
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 November 08 18:07 GMT (UK) »
For what it's worth, in more recent times my Latin teacher at St John's Grammar School in the late 1940's was called Robert (wee Bobbie) Mather

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Re: MATHER family - Hamilton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 November 08 09:36 GMT (UK) »
I still cannot find a death record for John Mather.  I have found a census record for 1841 showing a John Mather (Independent) aged 70 in Meakle Earnock, and another census record for 1851 showing a John Mather (Pauper) aged 80 living at Lowaters.  Having looked at the maps I am assuming that this is probably the same person.

If John was a pauper would he have been receiving money from the church? 

John does not appear in the 1861 census which is not surprising considering his age and I have not found any death record for him after 1855 so must assume he died between 1851 - 1854.
Mather - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Hamilton - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Strang - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Barron - Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire
Vallance - Renfrewshire & Dunbartonshire
Lynch - Dunbartonshire
Marshall - Stirlingshire

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Re: MATHER family - Hamilton
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 January 09 23:02 GMT (UK) »
  Hi, This information may be of interest to you. Mather is an unusual name and the area is right.   W. Bolton

        MEIKLE EARNOCK BURYING GROUND.

Sir, I am curious to know the origin and age of the small graveyard on the confines of the Fairhill property and adjoining the road from Earnock to Meikle-Earnock. Might I ask the author of the “Recollections” which frequently appear in your publication if he can find on the shelves of his memory any impress of the facts relating to it and its dismantled state?  If he could also tell me the history of the ruined wall on the north side of the village of Meikle-Earnock. I should be under an increased debt of gratitude to him.  QUAERO. Ref. Hamilton Advertiser. 7/5/1887. Page 4.


MEIKLE-EARNOCK BURYING GROUND.
Sir, having read in Saturday’s Advertiser a letter from a correspondent seeking information about the age and origin of Meikle-Earnock Burying-Ground. I, along with a few friends, visited it on Sunday night, as I have often done in my lifetime before, and I must say that I was greatly shocked with the state in which I found it, It seems to me that in this awful race for riches the old proverb holds good, “Better a living dog than a dead lion.” The Indians of North America put us to shame in the way they respect the sepulchres of the dead. I must inform your correspondent that according to tradition the origin of this old burying ground is lost in the mists of time Everything points to Meikle-Earnock as being a very ancient place , there being an ancient tumulus, which, though much larger at one time still  measures 12 feet in diameter and 8 feet high. There have ben found several urns in it from time to time. It appears the ancient inheritance of Fairhill and Meikle-Earnock was held by a family of the name of Strang, of which our energetic councillor is a lineal descendant. So far as I have been able to discover o, when the old parish church of Hamilton (of which many of your readers of your readers will remember the portion that stood up to 1852, and was used as the burying place of the Hamilton family) was removed on 1731, the Laird Strang of that day built here a place of sepulture like Abraham of old, in the shape of an octagon tower wherein to bury members of the family. Of course there had been Strang’s buried here before this, as witness the inscription on two flat stones in good preservation:-- “Here lies James Strang, of Meikle-Earnock, who was born July 20th. 1654, and died 31st March 1746, in the 92nd year of his age” –also “Here lies Robert Strang, younger of Meikle-Earnock, who was born 31st October, 1687 and died 6th of May 1737. The Mathers of Meikle-Earnock, who held the estate for a considerable time, came through it by marriage. One of the Lairds of Meikle-Earnock married a Mather, and at his death the estate lapsed into that family, and was held for a time by a Mr Dick, of Glasgow, and is now the property of the much respected laird of Earnock, and I have no doubt if Mr Watson’s attention were called to the state of this old burying ground, he would perhaps hedge it round and plant a few trees in it. I more readily suggest this, knowing that few gentlemen in Scotland have done as much for the improvement and beautifying of their estates, and I have no doubt if this were done he would earn the eternal gratitude of every well-disposed  Hamiltonian. With regard to the high wall at the north end of the village, so far as I am able to judge, and so far as the older inhabitants remembers, it was the garden wall connected with the old mansion house. Yours, Etc. KINGSTON.  Ref. Hamilton Advertiser. 14/5/1887. Hamilton Advertiser. Page 4. 

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Re: MATHER family - Hamilton
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 February 09 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks wbol.

This is very interesting and suggests that there is another Strang/Mather marriage to look for.

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Mather - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Hamilton - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Strang - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Barron - Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire
Vallance - Renfrewshire & Dunbartonshire
Lynch - Dunbartonshire
Marshall - Stirlingshire

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Re: MATHER family - Hamilton
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 June 12 20:25 BST (UK) »
There is an excellent article in the Hamilton Advertiser of 7th April 1888 written  by Andrew Hamilton a first class historian from Quarter. It is called "The Mathers and the Mausoleum in Meikle Earnock Burying Ground", and gives a  detailed account and history of the Mather family. Much of the information was obtained from the family bible owned by a William Mather, Goulburn, Sydney, New South Wales. This article is a goldmine for Mather family historians. The last paragraph reads "In a list of Hamiltons and others who were retainers and vassals of the Earl of Arran, Lord Hamilton in 1565, is the name of John Mather in the Nethertoun of Hamilton. He may have been the common ancestor of all the Hamilton Mathers." The Old Hamilton Advertisers can be seen on fiche in Hamilton Reference Library and a copy of the article can be obtained for 45 pence per page. This article takes 7 pages. For any Mather family historian it is a must and you are so lucky to have it. Enjoy.

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Re: MATHER family - Hamilton
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 05 June 12 20:57 BST (UK) »
Many thanks WBOL,

I have seen and have a copy of this item.  It is an extract from  “The Lineage of Rev. Richard Mather” by Horace E Mather.

William Mather, the owner of the bible is indeed part of my tree and was born 1823 in Hamilton and died 1908 in Goulburn.   Finding this article answered a number of questions for me.  It confirmed that there was two marriages between the Mather and Strang families in 1724 and 1770.  This Strang family appears to be related to Christopher Strang the Covenanter who was sentenced to hang in Edinburgh in 1666.

On the Mather side I need to get back to 1565 from 1700.

Thanks again for the information.

William
Mather - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Hamilton - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Strang - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
Barron - Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire
Vallance - Renfrewshire & Dunbartonshire
Lynch - Dunbartonshire
Marshall - Stirlingshire