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Maternal great grandmother
« on: Wednesday 05 November 08 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello, Can anybody in the Manchester area help find the mother's name of my  grandfather Joseph Smith!!! Joseph, a Coppersmith gave his residence as 124 Rutland St, married Harriet Beasley of  on 26 March 1883 in St. Mathews Church, (Parish unreadable on marriage certificate) his father was Henry Smith an Engraver. Joseph's age on certificate was 29 indicating a birth about 1853/4, Harriet's age was 28. T. Taylor Evans was the assistant curate who officiated. I have been unable to find a positive record of Joseph's birth. I would be very grateful if anyone could please help me.   Sherri.

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Re: Maternal great grandmother
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 21:59 GMT (UK) »
How about this

1861

Henry Smith 50 labourer b Manchester
Elizabeth 48 wife  householder b ditto
Thomas 21 son coppersmith b ditto
Elizabeth 14 dau b ditto
John C 12 son errand boy b ditto
Eliza J 10 dau scholar b ditto
Walter 8 son b ditto
Joseph 6 son b ditto
61 Camp Street Manchester

RG9 2940 fol 9 p 12
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Maternal great grandmother
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 22:06 GMT (UK) »
1871
same address as 61
Elizabeth 67 married
Walter 19 son  app to coppersmith
Joseph 17 son  app to coppersmith
William 4 or 14 son scholar
all born Manchester
RG10 4037 fol 74 p 17

Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Maternal great grandmother
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Agree on the 1861, just found it also!

Camp St is in St Matthew district  :)

Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: Maternal great grandmother
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 22:15 GMT (UK) »
1881
Looks like Joseph

1 Great Western Inn
Samuel Bruffell 31  publican
Eliza Bruffell 31 wife(could this be Josephs sister)
Joseph Smith 26 visitor  brass finisher
William Smith 15 visitor scholar
both born Manchester.this Inn seems to be next door but one to 61 Camp Street
RG11 3989 fol 53 p 10


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Re: Maternal great grandmother
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Agree with you both and tracking back in the 1851 census Henry was a Labourer to an ENGRAVER!!!

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Mo
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Re: Maternal great grandmother
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Mo I was just about to do that.Were there any more children,trying to narrow down the marriage

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Re: Maternal great grandmother
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 22:31 GMT (UK) »
1841

Henry Smith 35 engraver
Elizabeth 25
William 5
Thomas 1
Hewitt Street Manchester

HO107/570/18/15 p24
Russells in Westmorland,Lancashire<br />Rileys Halifax,Rochdale<br />Graingers Hull Yorks<br />Coles Northampton<br />Transcribed the whole of Westmorland 41 census<br />and Rochdale 61 <br /><br />Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Maternal great grandmother
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 22:51 GMT (UK) »
LDS individual submission has Henry Smith m Eliza Jackson, 30/11/1835, Manchester.





LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk