william colling

[sue1]

Can someone help me please?
William was on the 1841 census with his wife Jane. He was 30 and a mariner.  He was transcribed as Collins.  By the 1851 census his wife Jane was remarried with a 5month old baby, plus the children she had with William.

I have searched for Williams death as I know he was deceased by 1854 but I cant find it anywhere.  If he had died at sea would his death not have been registered.  I did find a William Collins death 1849 in Sunderland on the free bmd and when the certificate arrived it was the wrong one.  This one was only 4 years old.

I am pulling my hair out at the mo, does anyone know if there would be a register of the ships he was on.

Would be grateful for any help

Regards Susan

[Ecneps]

Hi Susan,

Just linking this to your other post on the same subject
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/04p6/   

Have you looked in the GRO index to marine deaths, and through the normal full death GRO index?

Barbara

[Ecneps]

Hi Susan,

This is where you got your earlier information from Daisypetal a couple of years ago (as on your other post you said you couldn't remember where the details came from)
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/04pv/   

Just to recap, Daisy gave you Jane's 2nd marriage reg in 1850 to John Lever Walker, and their 1851 census details

So William Colling had died between 1841-1850 and in 1841 census was living in Sunderland

The GRO index to marine deaths 1837-45 lists a William Collins (page 461) a Wm. Collins (p. 357), and a Wm. Collings (p.256)  no ages or other information is given, and it might be worth going through all the marine deaths index as they're not in alphabetical order and I just had a quick look - there could be more. 
   
Barbara

[sue1]

thank you so much Barbara.  The trouble is that the name comes up with Collin, Collings and Colling.  I have not been able to find a marine index in the gro but will have another look as I have access to Ancestry

[Ecneps]

I don't think ancestry has them, but they are on findmypast - the index is free to search I think, but you pay to view the images

Barbara

[GailW]

Hi Sue

I also have William Colling, a master mariner born Sunderland who died before 1854. William is my 3 x great grandfather.
I have a date of birth of 19 April 1804 from his Master & Mates Certificate which was issued on 20 Jan 1851 so I am presuming he is alive at this time. On 23 May 1854 his daughter Jane Colling marries William Booker in Sunderland and has father William Colling, Master Mariner deceased.
I do not know if your William is the same as my William but there seem to be alot of similarities.
Any help greatly received.
cheers
Gail

[Neil Todd]

Hi just trying to ensure you have the right person. Is your fellow Wm COLLINS or William COLLINGS

I say this because it can be easy to get off on the wrong tack when you find a LIKELY candidate? Do you know he was deceased by 1854 (if correct chap)?

There are quite a few with similar surnames, what was the daughters name or what generation are you going back from.

Unfortunately in Sunderland one of the main occupations is Mariner and it is unlikely you will find a list he served on, as most were coastal sailing barge type vessels carrying coal.

One instance is a William COLLINGS born c1813 and a Mariner in 1841 census married to an Isabella. They had two daughters in 1841. Ann 2yo and Isabella 1yo?

Neil

Just read your earlier 06 post and it is Jane 1835 you are after.

Neil

[GailW]

Hi Neil
Thanks for your reply.
It is William Colling I am after - this is the spelling on his daughter Jane's marriage certificate - yes in a number of other documents the spelling alternates as often happens at a time where informants can't always write their own names. Jane signed her marriage certificate with her mark so this is the spelling recorded by the curate.
I am trying the eliminate other men named William Colling who were around at the same time - I have found another who is a shoemaker, with wife Jane also with a daughter Jane but he is still alive after the date of Jane's marriage so was able to eliminate him. There is another who is a seaman, widower aged 56 who is recorded as born in Hartlepool. There are a number of children with him - but not Jane. So my search continues.
Thanks
Gail
Thanks

[fiddlerslass]

Hi,
  Burial Sunderland  Nov 1842 William COLLIN mariner age 38 of Hat Case

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SC7-X4G?mode=g&i=163&wc=9K59-6TP%3A13618101%2C32548301%2C32759601%3Fcc%3D1309819&cc=1309819

Death reg Dec 1842 Sunderland 24 177 William COLLIN