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Offline bel_jon68

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Anyone seen adoption papers?
« on: Thursday 03 February 05 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone tell me what sort of info is contained in court adoption papers please? 

Would they give both parents' names if only one parent registered the birth?

Would they state the reason for adoption?

Would they give any background on the birth parents?

The adoption papers I'm interested in were destroyed by the adoptive parents and I'm wondering if it's worth getting a copy from the court, or whether the papers will tell me what I already know.

Thanks

Bel
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Re: Anyone seen adoption papers?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 February 05 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi bel_jon68

I have copies of my own adoption papers (they are Australian) so I don't know if English ones will have the same information. 

I was adopted at the County court at Melbourne in 1964, it was held in the Judges Chambers and both my sister and I were present as we were 9.  The judge asked us if we wished to be adopted.

When I applied for my adoption papers I received the following:-
A copy of my original Birth Certificate
A copy of my mothers Death Certificate
Copies of all court documents including the Affidavit verifying consent by parent of infant. (In my case my father) and a sworn statement from the Social welfare officer in charge of our case.

It doesn't give the reason for the adoption, but in my case our mother died when we were 2 and we were adopted by our Great Aunt & Uncle.

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Genni


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Re: Anyone seen adoption papers?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bel,
I knew my father was adopted, so applied for what I thought would give me more details other than family rumour.
What I got was a  'Certified copy of an entry in the Adopted Children Register', which is maintained at the GRO.  This I applied for from GRO.  It is NOT the adoption papers, as I thought.  These papers are only available to the adopted child.
The certificate I have gives the date of the adoption, childs first name (no mention of the name he/she might have been registered in at birth) full name of the adopting couple, address and occupation.  The date of birth of the child, date of adoption order and place.
Hope this helps,
Jane
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Re: Anyone seen adoption papers?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 16:08 GMT (UK) »
I am adopted and have all the court papers

it gives the childs name, application made by......... and address authorising them to adopt ............ an infant or child of .......... and the infant is to be known being ...................
 it having been proved that the infant is identical with  ......(childs name) to whom an entry numbered  ..... and made on the .......(date in the register of births for .......(Place)
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 16:09 GMT (UK) »
hope you understand that!
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Re: Anyone seen adoption papers?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 16:12 GMT (UK) »
in a nutshell, if the parents registered the birth they will be named in the adoption papers, if single mother only her name will be given.  There are no reasons given for the adoption, and no information is given about the parent('s).
is that clearer?
Jan
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Re: Anyone seen adoption papers?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Correct me if I'm wrong Janet, but the adoption papers are only available to the adopted child should they have been lost?  In my case, my father (who was adopted) is deceased and I can't get hold of the papers, only this certificate,
Jane
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Jane,
I can't help you there, all my papers including solicitors paper etc were given to me by my adoptive father. I did ring up the GRO and asked for my full original birth certificate, but I was able to do that as I knew my blood mothers name.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Gottcha, Janet.  Thanks

Jane
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