Turner / Brown in NSW

[williamandemma]

Hello there. This is my first post here so I hope I don't make too many mistakes....

I am looking for any information for the following (presumed) immigrants to Australia. We have in amongst our family documents a photograph of a couple with two children, taken in a photograhic studio in Sydney, NSW.

The woman is my great grandfather's sister.

Her name is Marian Elizabeth BROWN, born 1884 in Newington, London, UK. The photograph says 'love Jack and Marian' but I have no idea of her married name. I have found a marriage certificate showing a Marian Elizabeth Brown marrying a John Conrad TURNER, born 1882, married 5 Aug 1906 in St Barnabas Church, Rotherhithe, London, UK.

I can only surmise that John was known as Jack (hence the photo) as all other evidence matches.

Therefore I am searching for a John (or Jack) Conrad TURNER and a Marian Elizabeth TURNER arriving in Australia after 1906 and subsequently having two daughters - although I don't know whether either child was born in the UK or Australia.

Many thanks

[craizi daizi]

Hello Williamanddemma

Firstly welcome ,  and mistakes - dont worry about them,  we all make them

OK,  i have found a death which maybe yours, 

Marion Elizabeth TURNER,   fathers name unknown,   mothers name - Elizabeth,  died 1942 in Auburn,  NSW
reg no.  15710/1942

There is a few John TURNER deaths,  3 with John C TURNER,  but would need hos parents names to work it out,  if you have them....

Will have a look for incoming passengers

Daizi

[williamandemma]

Wow -

I wasn't expecting any replies for a while so many thanks!

As far as I am aware, my Marian Elizabeth's mother was called Maria, but I don't have a full birth certificate for her at the moment so that is something I would need to check. Marian Elizabeth's mother died in 1890 so doesn't appear on the 1891 England census and I haven't yet located the family in 1881 census.

As for John Conrad TURNER, his father is given as John William TURNER on the marriage certificate, and his mother's name is Ann E (TURNER), on the 1891 England census.

Many thanks for your prompt response

William

[craizi daizi]

OK.   just done a look around,  cant see them arriving,  but some one may be able to,  but have found a few kids to them.....

Beatrice M TURNER
born 1910
Parents = John C and Marion E
Sydney
Reg #  34655

Ethel G TURNER
born 1914
Parents as above
Born = Granville  NSW
reg #  5284

Louisa M TURNER
born = 1915
Parents as above
Born ,  Granville NSW
reg # 42756

[Louisa M Turner
Died 1916
Granville
Parents as above
reg # 2063]

Stella  I TURNER
born = 1917
Parents as above
born = Granville NSW
reg # 6207
 

Daizi

[williamandemma]

Fantastic! - something to sink my teeth into!

William

[craizi daizi]

William

you can search online,  for further marriages,  and deaths in that family,  as NSW bdms are online for certain years.......those births are not on there,  but other stuff will be, 

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Cheers

Daizi

[Cazay]

1936 Electoral Roll, Robertson Smithfield
Marian Turner, Tangerine St Smithfield - Home Duties
Thirza Elizabeth,         "                          Home Duties
Ethel Grace,                "                         Machinist
Beatrice May,              "                                "

1930 Parramatta Smithfield (only Marian is listed)

Thirza Elizabeth Turner died 16 Feb 1975, aged 66, formerly of Fairfield
Sydney Morning Herald 18 Feb 1975.  You can request a copy of the newspaper notice, details on website.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nswsdps/dpsindex.htm

On NSW bdm's - Thirza Elizabeth Turner, parents John Conrad and Marian Elizabeth, 4430/1975

Cazay

[craizi daizi]

If you check the NSW bdm's  there is 2 John C TURNER deaths that could be John Conrads, that being his death before 1936,  =   1928 or 1921 

JOhn C TURNER died 1928 HUrstville - parents John W and Elizabeth.....

or

John C K Turner died 1921 with parents William and Margaret -  died Sydney

Daizi

[williamandemma]

Many thanks for that -

As I have said before, in the 1891 England census his mother is listed as Ann E so it is likely that the 1st person you mentioned is the Turner I want, as his father was a John William.

Both the place where the children were born and the place where he died are now suburbs of Sydney, so they're not too far away from each other either.

Many thanks once again

William