PAGE family of Middlesex 18th/19th centuries (completed)

[Valda]

Charles Page aged 72 (with two names and the fact Charles Robert appeared last in the list of brothers, you might expect him to be the youngest one) born Oporto was living in Oxford Terrace Kensington on the 1851 census. This is his Prerogative Court of Canterbury will.

Will of Charles Page of Oxford Terrace London
Date 19 January 1855
Catalogue reference PROB 11/2205 

so he could not be the man who died in West Ham in 1860.


Regards

Valda

[jorose]

Where did Henry say he was born in 1851, btw? I found a long-winded obituary in the Times 1841 for a Richard Page, b. Brighton in 1773, worked in Holland and spoke French and Dutch, returned to London in 1793 and worked in the corn trade and in various other business ventures.  It mentions no family, so he may be the brother Richard Page - if the Brighton connection makes sense, that is.

[yelkcub]

Thanks for your reply, Jorose
In the 1851 census, just months before his death, Henry reported his birthplace as Charlwood Surrey, though his name does not appear in the baptismal register.
I get the feeling that this family moved around a lot - especially if we are right and the brothers were merchants of one kind or another. Can you give me the date of the Times story so that I can order a copy and follow up on your lead? The Richard Page you have found certainly seems a more likely candidate than any I have so far looked at in the census of 1841 and 1851.
A person I have been researching, James Page (b 1825) who was probably the son of Henry, though Henry might have been his uncle, was a multilinguist and had worked in commerce in Hamburg before migrating to Australia in 1850. In Australia he was for a time the French and Swiss consul (or vice consul) and had a business as a shipping agent.

Valda -
many thanks for your reply too. I found a notice of Charles Page's death in the 1855 Gentleman's Magazine 'of Oxford Terrace, formerly of Oporto'

[jorose]

Richard Page's obituary:
The Times Wednesday, Feb 24, 1841; pg. 6; Issue 17602; col B
 
In fact, almost the exact same piece can be found on Google Books in 'The Mirror of Literature, Amusement, and Instruction'.

[yelkcub]

Thanks for that, Jenna - I found the item in Google books, and this RP still seems a likely candidate for my ancestor's brother
Best wishes
Ian

[Valda]

There are various trees for Charles Robert Page who died in 1860 on Ancestry. He was in baptised Wilmington Sussex (listed as Kent on the 1851 census) in 1784. He seems to have been a sawyer in Bexley Kent on the 1851 and 1841 censuses. Nothing showing on the trees he had any known brothers with the names listed (but then Wilmington parish registers are not on the IGI). He is the only possible Charles Robert Page death on the civil registration.

Wilmington and Charlwood are about 35 miles apart.

Regards

Valda

[yelkcub]

Hi Valda
... and sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. I'm afraid work got in the way of my research. I'm sure you have been told this many, many times, but you are a marvel.
This is a really interesting record, a better bet than the Charles I have been looking at. I managed to find a list of this Charles's children. My central piece of evidence at the moment is the Chancery case. If I can only find out the names of the people (children of my ancestor's brothers) who were the petitioners in the case (unnamed in the Times) questioning the legitimacy of my ancestor's children, then perhaps I will be able to confirm this Charles as my ancestor's brother.
With thanks and best wishes
Ian

[Valda]

Hi Ian

what were the names of Charles' children? Are they the same as the children of Charles Robert born Wilmington?

Regards

Valda

[yelkcub]

Charles Robert appears in more than one tree and accounts of his children vary slightly. This is the one I'm working with:
Henry         1812
Charles Robert      1813 (d. Tasmania 1894)
James         1816 (20 Mar)
Jane         1816
William         1818 (d. 1894)
John         1821
George         1829
Arthur         1831

Only the last two appear in the parental home in the first two censuses
As far as I can tell at least three of his sons were early settlers in Australia - James being in Tasmania as early as 1845 according to the record of his second child's birth.

One detail in this tree bothers me: Thomas Page (father of Charles Robert) is said to have been born 1755 and married 1767. I suppose this must mean that he was christened some years after his birth, which must be before 1755 unless we are to contemplate his marrying at 12.