Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)

[cimbrio]

Wonder if anyone can help me, I'm trying to establish what happened to some of the brothers and sisters of my great-great-grandmother, Elizabeth Vickress. I have found a few leads which maybe a census would clarify.

The people I'm interested in are
Diana Vickress (b. Jul 1851 Lyonshall, Herefordshire)
Jane Vickress (b. Oct 1854 ditto)
Marianne Vickress (b. Mar 1856 ditto)
Thomas Frederick Vickress (b. Jul 1862 ditto).

I have found a Thomas Frederick Vickress who married in Jun qrtr 1887 in Macclesfield (no connections there as far as I know), and oddly enough a Diana Vickress also married in the same place in Sep qrtr 1878.

I have also found that a Diana Vickress died in Jun 1851 in Leominster, but I think that may have been their aunt, who was born in 1830 in Hope under Dinmore.

Any ideas?



Maybe the 1881 census could reveal where they came from...

[skyblueFF]

Hello

As a matter of interest in connection with this thread.
There is a wonderful novel by Sue Gee called the Mysteries of Glass. It is about a Curate in Lyonshall near Kington and gives an atmosphere of the area in the 1800s.
Michael

[Spidermonkey]

I wouldn't rule out the Macclesfield link - look at this census return for 1901
 Hawkins Lane, Rainow, Cheshire

Thomas Vickress  H  M  39  General Labourer
Lydia  W  M  43
Lydia Ellen  Dau  11  School girl
Evelyne May  Dau  7  School girl
Charles Henry  Son  5  School boy
Constance Mary  Dau  8mnths
All born Rainow, Cheshire except Thomas who was born Lyonshall
RG13; Piece: 3307; Folio: 32; Page: 10

[Spidermonkey]

Robert Gaskell mar Diana Vickress in 1878

1881 census Mill Brook Cottage, Rainow, Cheshire
Robert Gaskell  H  M  28  Can't read occupation  bn Cheshire Rainow
Diana  W  M  25  bn Herefordshire Lyonshall
Frederick  S  1  bn Cheshire Rainow
RG11; Piece: 3490; Folio: 37; Page: 19

[Spidermonkey]

By 1901, it looks as if Diana has lost her husband
Church St, Bollington, Cheshire

Diana Gaskell  H  Wid  47  bn Herefordshire Lyons Hall
Fred  son  21  Bleachers calenderer  bn Cheshire Rainow
Ann  dau  18  Paper cutter  bn Cheshire Rainow
Elizabeth  dau  13  Paper calenderer  bn Cheshire Bollington
Samuel  son  11  bn Cheshire Bollington
Emma  dau  7  bn  Cheshire Bollington
Dora  dau  4  bn Cheshire Bollington
RG13; Piece: 3305; Folio: 92; Page: 25

[Spidermonkey]

Possible death for Jane Vickress Sept qtr 1855 Presteigne 11b 102

[Spidermonkey]

In 1881, Thomas is still with his parents, Frederick and Ann, in Pembridge

West St, Pembridge
Frederick Vickress  H  M  65  Carpenter and joiner  bn Hope, Heref
Ann  W  Mar  55  bn Staunton on Arrow
William  Son  21  Carpenter and joiner bn Lyonshall
Thomas Son  18  Ag lab  bn Lyonshall
Charles  Son  10  Scholar  bn Lyonshall
RG11; Piece: 2611; Folio: 25; Page: 20;

So Thomas must have moved to Macclesfield between 1881 and 1887

[Spidermonkey]

On the 1891 census, Robert and Diana Gaskell and Thomas Vickress appear to have gone out for the night leaving Lydia Vickress to babysit 

1891 census
Church St, Bollington, Cheshire
Frederick Gaskell  son   11  packer/mill hand  bn Rainow Cheshire
Ann Gaskell  dau  8  scholar  bn Rainow, Cheshire
Florence Gaskell  dau  5  scholar  bn Bollington, Cheshire
Elizabeth Gaskell  dau  3  Scholar  bn Bollington, Cheshire
Lydia Vickress  sis in law  32  bn Rainow, Cheshire
Lydia Vickress dau  1   bn Rainow, Cheshire

RG12; Piece: 2809; Folio 85; Page 39

[cimbrio]

Spidermonkey, as always, AMAZING!

It does look like Diana married Robert Gaskell and had six children called Frederick, Ann, Florence, Elizabeth, Samuel, Emma and Dora.  Robert Gaskell passed away in 1898.

Thomas Frederick Vickress married Lydia Sutton and had five children: Lydia Ellen, Thomas Frederick (1891-1891), Eveline May, Charles Henry and Constance May.

As for Jane, she did die in 1855 since her aunt of the same name was still alive in 1861 and living with the child's grandmother.

By the way, I've never seen this reference before:

In 1881, Thomas is still with his parents, Frederick and Ann, in Pembridge

West St, Pembridge
Frederick Vickress  H  M  65  Carpenter and joiner  bn Hope, Heref
Ann  W  Mar  55  bn Staunton on Arrow
William  Son  21  Carpenter and joiner bn Lyonshall
Thomas Son  18  Ag lab  bn Lyonshall
Charles  Son  10  Scholar  bn Lyonshall
RG11; Piece: 2611; Folio: 25; Page: 20;

First time I hear of this Charles