Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)

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OK, now THIS is weird. Is Milbrow the name of a WOMAN?

This is what I found:

Marriages Mar 1887   
Hollings    John         Weobly    6a   721    
VICKRESS    Milbrow         Weobly    6a   721

If so then the children on the previous post are issue of >William Vickress and Ellen Morris...

[Spidermonkey]

I think it is more likely that there was a problem transcribing the marriages, because I think that Milborough is a man.

Looking on the monumental inscriptions website that I gave you on page 2 of this thread, I think that William and Ellen Vickress (nee Morris) are buried at Hope under Dinmore.  Looks like William died in 1936 aged 78.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukhfhs/miuv.html

[Spidermonkey]

I stand corrected!  Milboro'  might well be a girls name!  Look who I have just found on the 1901 census

1901 Herefordshire
Hope Coaling Hill, Hope under Dinmore
William Vickeress  H  Married 40  Carpenter  bn Lyonshall, Heref
Ellen Vickeress  W  Married 45  bn Kinnersley
John VIckeress  S  11  school boy  bn Eardisland, Heref
Milboro' Vickeress  D  9  school girl  bn Eardisland
Ann Vickeress  D  7  school girl  bn Eardisland
Eleanor Vickeress  D  5  school girl  bn Eardisland
Frederick Vickeress  S  3  bn Eardisland
Thomas R Vickeress  S  2mnths  bn Hope (presumably Hope under Dinmore), Heref

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1891 Census  Herefordshire
Pembridge
JOhn Hollings  H  Mar  35  Agricultural LAbourer  bn Lyonshall, Heref
Milbrow Hollings  W  Mar  41  bn Staunton on Arrow, Heref

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1861 Census  Herefordshire
Upper Rise? Lyonshall
Frederick Vickress  H  M  45  Carpenter  bn  Heref.  Hope under Dinmore
Ann Vickress W  M  39  bn Heref. Pembridge
Elizabeth  D  14  bn  Heref. Pembridge
Milbrow  D 12  bn Heref Pembridge
Diana  D  9  bn Heref Lyonshall
William  S  2  bn Heref Lyonshall

[Spidermonkey]

Ok, on the 1871 census there are 2 Milbro's!!!

One is Milbro Vicarage aged 22, a nursemaid born in Stanton Herefordshire, living at Upper House, Lyonshall.

The other is Milbrough Vickress aged 18, unmarried sister in law born in Hope Under Dinmore living with Mary Vickress aged 60, widow born Cleobury Mortimer, Shropshire.  They are living in Marden, Herefordshire

[Spidermonkey]

*Frederick Vickress, died Jun 1891, Kington (I think 74 y.o). Father of Elizabeth, Milbrow, Diana and William
*Daisy Elizabeth Vickress, born Sep 1904, Kington.
*Elizabeth Vickress married on Sep 1876, Kington (I didn't double-check it but I think it's the same one who married Samuel Morris). presumably daughter of Frederick
*William Vickress, married Jun 1889 in Kington (ditto, but I think he's the one who married Ellen Morris, Samuel's younger sister; i.e. a brother and a sister from the Morris family married a sister and a brother of the Vickress family. again, presumably son of Frederick
*William Vickress, born Sep 1845 Leominster. Could this be the same William as above, Elizabeth's brother, who married Ellen Morris in 1889?
*William Vickress, born Mar 1859 Presteigne (seems unlikely to be connected).
*Milbrow Vickress, married Mar 1887 in Weobley. Is this the Millborough who was with Elizabeth in Radnorshire in 1851?
*William Frederick Vickress, born Jun 1898 in Weobley. Milbrow's or William's son perhaps? Children of William and Ellen
*Eleanor Susan Vickress, born Sep 1895 in Weobley. Ditto.
*Ann Drusilla Vickress, born Dec 1893 in Weobley. Ditto.
*John Vickress, born Jun 1890 in weobley, ditto.
*Milbrow Vickress, born Mar 1892 in Weobley. ditto.



Can anyone confirm any of the above?

[Spidermonkey]

Could Elizabeth and Milbro have been enumerated twice?

On 1851 census for Lyonshall:
Frederick Vickress  H  Mar  36  Carpenter and joiner  bn Hope, Heref
Ann Vickress  W  Mar  29  bn Stanton Arrow, Heref
Elizabeth Vickress  D  4  bn Stanton Arrow , Heref
Milbrough Vickress  D  2  bn Stanton Arrow, Heref

IGI christenings to Frederick and Ann (all Lyonshall unless otherwise stated)
Diana  27 jul 1851
Jane  15 oct 1854
Marianne  9 mar 1856
William 27 Jan 1859
William Thomas  7 jun 1857
Thomas Frederick 28 jul 1862
James 12 feb 1865
Milbrow 18 mar 1849 Staunton on Arrow

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1841 census  Hope under Dinmore
Wm Vickress  50  Carpenter
Elizth Vickress  50
Wm Vickress 25  Carpenter
Frederick Vickress  23  Carpenter
Milbro Vickress 20
Jane Vickress 15
Henry Vickress 12
Thomas Vickress  10
Alfred Vickress 6
All born in county

IGI
William Vickress mar Elizabeth Gatehouse  26 aug 1811 Hope under Dinmore

Christenings to children of William and Elizabeth
1. ELIZABETH VICKRESS - 28 APR 1816 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
2. MILBOROUGH VICKRESS - 09 APR 1820 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
3. MARY ANN VICKRESS - 02 FEB 1813 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
4. ALFRED VICKRESS - 13 APR 1834 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
5. LUKE THOMAS VICKRESS -12 JUN 1831 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
6. WILLIAM VICKRESS - 27 OCT 1811 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
7. CAROLINE VICKRESS - 18 OCT 1821 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
8. DIANA VICKRESS - 10 OCT 1830 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
9. JANE VICKRESS - 23 JAN 1825 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
10. DRUCILLA VICKRESS - 09 NOV 1817 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
11. HENRY EDWARD VICKRESS -10 OCT 1830 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England
12. FREDERICK VICKRESS - 14 AUG 1814 Hope Under Dinmore, Hereford, England