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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Caroline married Robert Inglis in Eardisley in 1849

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 16:59 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Vickress, aged 4, born Staunton-on-Arrow, Herefordshire, is to be found on the 1851 Wales census, HO107/2492, folio 421 page 13, Staunton-on-Arrow, Radnorshire  :-\

She and her brother Milbour?? are visitors with the Tippins family.

Will post details if you don't have access.

Susan  :)

Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Well I must have seen it on one of the census available... maybe 1871... Otherwise I wouldn't have thought she came from Kent (my family has absolutely no connections there)... I've seen Samuel Morris & Elizabeth Alice Vickress marrying Sep 1876 in Kington.  Oddly enough, Samuel's sister Ellen apparently also married a Vickress in Kington in Jun 1889. Perhaps I got the wrong couple... I don't know, I'm a bit lost...

PS: I can't believe the amount of help you're giving me!
Herefordshire: ALLEN (Colwall), CARTWRIGHT (Kington & Almeley), DAVIS (Colwall), EVANS (Pembridge), GODSALL (Colwall), JONES (Whitbourne), MORRIS (Kington & Kinnersley), MOUND (Wormsley), TIPPINS (Staunton-on-Arrow), RODWAY (Colwall), VICKRESS (Wellington & Hope-under-Dinmore), WATKINS (Almeley)
Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 18:23 GMT (UK) »
I'd love to see the census where it mentions her and her brother. Any mention of parents, or other siblings? I'm guessing the William Vickress who married Samuel's sister Ellen was Elizabeth brother too...
Herefordshire: ALLEN (Colwall), CARTWRIGHT (Kington & Almeley), DAVIS (Colwall), EVANS (Pembridge), GODSALL (Colwall), JONES (Whitbourne), MORRIS (Kington & Kinnersley), MOUND (Wormsley), TIPPINS (Staunton-on-Arrow), RODWAY (Colwall), VICKRESS (Wellington & Hope-under-Dinmore), WATKINS (Almeley)
Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)


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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Mary and Amos Lane on the 1891 Wales Census

Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
4 Bassett Terr
Amos Lane H  Married 24  General Labourer  bn Hereford Almeley
Mary Lane  W  Married 24  bn Hereford Kinnersley
Emily E Lane  dau  5mnths  bn Glam Eglwysilan

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Mary has been widowed by the 1901 census

Dilwyn, Herefordshire
Headland
Mary Lane  H  Wid  35  Carrier Carm?  bn Kinnersley, Herefordshire
Emily Lane  D  10  bn Glamorgan
Thomas Lane  S  8  bn Glamorgan
Catherine Lane  D  5  bn  Herefordshire  Ocle Pychard
Sarah Pearce  visitor  WId  bn Wormsley, Herefordshire
William Pearce  son  24  Farm Labourer  bn Salop Richards Castle

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 09 December 08 23:11 GMT (UK) »
1851 Wales census HO107/2492/421/13

Old Publick?, Stanton-upon-Arrow, Radnorshire

John Tippins  Head  M  65/8?  Farm Labourer  Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Susan Tippins  Wife  M  66   -   Hereford, Pembridge
John Tippins  Son  UM 30  Farm Labourer  Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Jonathan Tippins  Son UM 35  Farm Labourer  Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Susan Tippins  Dau  UM  18   -   Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Elizabeth Vickress  Visitor  -  4  -  Hereford, Stanton on Arrow
Milbrow Vickress  Visitor  -  2  -  Hereford, Stanton on Arrow

Joshua Ti?????  Visitor  11  -  Hereford, Leominster
John Hill  Lodger  Widower  40  Farm Labourer  Hereford, Orleton
John Hill  Lodger  UM  13  Farm Labourer  Hereford, Orleton
Mary Hill  Visitor  -  11  -  Hereford, Orleton


Susan  :)
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 10 December 08 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Gosh, Milbrow and Montillion  ;D  we're starting a nice collection of names!!

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 10 December 08 10:36 GMT (UK) »
I know, very weird names.

I was searching yesterday on the BMD search machine for the Vickresses, to see if there were any hints. Here's what I found:

*Frederick Vickress, died Jun 1891, Kington (I think 74 y.o).
*Daisy Elizabeth Vickress, born Sep 1904, Kington.
*Elizabeth Vickress married on Sep 1876, Kington (I didn't double-check it but I think it's the same one who married Samuel Morris).
*William Vickress, married Jun 1889 in Kington (ditto, but I think he's the one who married Ellen Morris, Samuel's younger sister; i.e. a brother and a sister from the Morris family married a sister and a brother of the Vickress family.
*William Vickress, born Sep 1845 Leominster. Could this be the same William as above, Elizabeth's brother, who married Ellen Morris in 1889?
*William Vickress, born Mar 1859 Presteigne (seems unlikely to be connected).
*Milbrow Vickress, married Mar 1887 in Weobley. Is this the Millborough who was with Elizabeth in Radnorshire in 1851?
*William Frederick Vickress, born Jun 1898 in Weobley. Milbrow's or William's son perhaps?
*Eleanor Susan Vickress, born Sep 1895 in Weobley. Ditto.
*Ann Drusilla Vickress, born Dec 1893 in Weobley. Ditto.
*John Vickress, born Jun 1890 in weobley, ditto.
*Milbrow Vickress, born Mar 1892 in Weobley. ditto.

DEATHS:
*Ellen Vickress (I suspect née Morris), died Jun 1924 in Leominster, 68 y.o. My Ellen Morris who married William Vickress was christened in October 1855, so it would fit the age.
*Millbrow Vickress, died Mar 1894, 74.y.o., in leominster. I'm suspecting the father of the three Vickress siblings.

My theory is that Millbrow Vickress and wife (name unknown for now) had at least three children:
-Elizabeth, born about 1846, married Samuel Morris in 1876. Four children.
-Millbrow/Milborough, birth date unknown, married in 1887 in Weobley (wife's name unknown), possible father of the five children born in Weobley between 1890 and 1898.
-William, born 1845, married Ellen Morris (who died in 1924), also possible parents of the five children.

I know there were Vickress cousins because one of them wanted to marry my gran's cousin Joan Morris, and she declined because at the time she was training to be a nurse, or some such story.

Can anyone confirm any of the above? :)
Herefordshire: ALLEN (Colwall), CARTWRIGHT (Kington & Almeley), DAVIS (Colwall), EVANS (Pembridge), GODSALL (Colwall), JONES (Whitbourne), MORRIS (Kington & Kinnersley), MOUND (Wormsley), TIPPINS (Staunton-on-Arrow), RODWAY (Colwall), VICKRESS (Wellington & Hope-under-Dinmore), WATKINS (Almeley)
Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)