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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #171 on: Monday 06 April 09 14:57 BST (UK) »
Will have a look for you now.

Have just been looking at the Times online archive for Vickresses, and there are loads about the London Vickresses (we'll have to work out your connection to them aswell  ;))  But, tucked away was a couple of paragraphs about a double murder in Herefordshire  :o  According to the paper Thomas Bown/Bounds (aged 75) shot himself after shooting dead William Alfred Vickress (aged about 45) with whom he had been living.  William Vickress' daughter witnessed it  :(

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #172 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:08 BST (UK) »
When was that murder, Spidermonkey? Is it William Alfred Vickress who was born in 1877, son of Alfred Vickress and Hannah Orchard? He had two daughters... I initially thought I was descended from the London Vickresses, but perhaps there is a link further up...
Herefordshire: ALLEN (Colwall), CARTWRIGHT (Kington & Almeley), DAVIS (Colwall), EVANS (Pembridge), GODSALL (Colwall), JONES (Whitbourne), MORRIS (Kington & Kinnersley), MOUND (Wormsley), TIPPINS (Staunton-on-Arrow), RODWAY (Colwall), VICKRESS (Wellington & Hope-under-Dinmore), WATKINS (Almeley)
Shropshire: MOUND (Hope Bagot)
Worcestershire: PARKER (Kempsey)

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #173 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:08 BST (UK) »
Found them on the 1871, but as yet not found them on other censuses
Vern, Marden, Herefordshire

Joseph Caldwell  Head  Mar  58  Axe helve maker  bn Herefordshire Yazor
Mary A Caldwell  Wife  Mar  58  bn Herefordshire Hope under Dinmore
Edward Caldwell  Son Unm  36  Invalid soldier  bn Herefordshire Hope under Dinmore
James Caldwell  Son  Unm  29  Helve maker  bn herefordshire St Margarets
Selina Caldwell  Dau  Unm  22  bn Staffordshire  Winguinford (?)

RG10; Piece: 2695; Folio: 42; Page: 5

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #174 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:12 BST (UK) »
When was that murder, Spidermonkey? Is it William Alfred Vickress who was born in 1877, son of Alfred Vickress and Hannah Orchard? He had two daughters... I initially thought I was descended from the London Vickresses, but perhaps there is a link further up...

It was reported on May 2 1927, so I bet it is William bn 1877 (the newspaper was very vague about his age).  The newpaper report does mention an inquest so it might be that one of the local papers carried a report of the inquest.  I couldn't find anything else in The Times


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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #175 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:29 BST (UK) »
The murder happened at Litmarsh MArden. Bown must have died there and then, but Vickres lived until the next day and died in hospital.

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #176 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:30 BST (UK) »
1861: South St, Leominster
Mary Ann Caldwell  Wife  Mar  48  bn Herefordshire Hope
James Caldwell  Son  Unm  19  Pike Helve Maker  bn Herefordshire St MArgarets
Selina Caldwell  Dau  Unm 12  bn Worcestershire Kingswinford
THomas Rogers  lodger  mar 32  Baker and confectioner  bn Radnorshire Presteigne
Henry Hayes  lodger  Unm 39  Cabinet maker and upholsterer  bn Yorkshire Leeds
RG9; Piece: 1831; Folio: 32; Page: 15

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #177 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:50 BST (UK) »
1851: New Hall, Lower Gornal, Sedgley
Jos Calwell  Head  Mar  38  cooper  bn Herefordshire, Yazor
Mary Ann  Wife  Mr  38  bn Herefordshire, Hope
Edward  Son  16  Brickmaker  bn Herefordshire, Hope
William  son  13  bn Herefordshire, Hope
Elizabeth  dau  11  bn Herefordshire, Hope
James  son  9  bn Herefordshire, St Margaret
Drusilla  dau  4  bn Herefordshire St MArgaret
Selina dau  2  bn Stafford, Kingswinford
HO107; Piece: 2030; Folio: 325; Page: 16

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #178 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:52 BST (UK) »
The murder happened at Litmarsh MArden. Bown must have died there and then, but Vickres lived until the next day and died in hospital.

And according to Google, there are still Vickresses in Litmarsh today........

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Re: Samuel Morris's family (c. Hereford)
« Reply #179 on: Monday 06 April 09 15:57 BST (UK) »
1841 census: Cubon? House, St Margarets, Herefordshire

Joseph Caldwel  26  Cooper
Mary Ann Caldwell  26
Edward Caldwell  6
William Caldwell  3
Elizabeth Caldwell  2

All born in county