Arthur Kemp Maltby Rotherham

[duckweed]

Couple of sites you might like to look at
http://www.treetonweb.co.uk/genea/brightmore.htm
http://www.rotherhamweb.co.uk
If you put Brightmore Teasdale Blunn or Stringer in the search on the Rotherham web you will find some references

[Bronhill]

Thanks Duckweed.   Really Appreciate the info you have provided on the sisters and the marriages.Also Nice chatting to you and am glad I happened to stumble upon your posts and find  this piece of the family jigsaw.  Would be interested to know what happened to young George. Am a bit confused though as While you put him as being born 1821, on the 1841 census he appears as 12 which would make him born 1828/29. Possible the census has an error- wouldn't be the first I have encountered. Am not sure if he married or not.
Had a look at the weblinks but didn't find anything on him. When I checked the census there didn't seem to be many Teasdales/ Teesdales in Tickhilll- like cousins etc living close by. Maybe because there weren't many males to carry on the name in the area. Sometimes you see  several of the same name listed as they were living in the same neighbourhood. One lady actually said that James b 1743 stayed at Colsterdale Masham whearas William and Mary Smith began the Rosedale Teasdales. She says most began with Thomas 1600s of Ilton near Masham.  Boy, there sure are a lot of Teasdales....

[duckweed]

I can't find George Teasdale after 1841. Perhaps he died or emigrated somewhere else. There is another Teasdale family who have a George of a similar age so maybe the birthdate I have been given is for the wrong George or perhaps it is census error. The other George was a miner and moved to Lancashire. Don't know if these 2 families are connected but seems likely. I'm interested in your Kemp connection. Generally if someone has Kemp as their middle name it would suggest a Kemp mother.

[Bronhill]

 Re the name Kemp.... Charles Kemp Teasdale was born  the 10th child in South Australi and has mother Sarah Jacques ( with a c so we think) and William Teasdale ( brother to Mary Sarah and Ann). I am not sure where Sarah and her originated although it is thought she was born in London... found a marriage for her mother ( Sarah Whitaker) and father Robert b c 1786.... heaps of Whitakers so am not sure if Kemps are connected there.....
Another child Robert of same  called his son Richard Kemp Teasdale who became a Anglican priest- went to England in early 1900s. Must have some significance, although am not sure what other than William's sister Ann- and Henry Jarvis and as was mentioned on your posts Mary Jarvis and Kemp. Maybe there is another family connection?

Re George b 1821 or 1828... have not been able to find anything about him at all. Perhaps he died young. Re George b 1796- and in the 1841 census- he died 1848... am not sure whre he as born as it didn;t say on the census but later censuses show the birthplace and Hannah ( Matthews) whom he married in 1815 Ecclesfield was born in Rawmarsh.
I am curious to know if George b 1796 was born in the area or came from somewhere else- also his father, siblings if any and mother but can't find anything. There are a heap of Teasdales around Sheffield but could find no others with a Tickhill listing other than their children.. Mary. Sarah, Anne .. and George

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I've just discovered an interesting thing, just a couple doors down from George and Hannah Teasdale is William Kemp as an apprentice butcher, Arthur Kemps father. The other Teasdale families that I think that may be related are in Silkstone, Cawstone , Bawtry and Wickersley Rawmarsh. One Edwin Teasdale was in London for a while before returning to Bawtry.  These are all fairly close to each other. The source I had suggested that George in Tickhill was born in Sheffield. There are a number of Teasdales in Sheffield too. Certainly there is a George Teasdale baptised in the church of St Peter (Cathedral Sheffield) 15 Apr 1796 IGI which is presumably where my source got it from. George's parents were Thomas and Hannah. There is also a brother Charles baptised there Apr 1798.

[Bronhill]

Hi Duckweed,

Re the Teasdales/ Teesdales of Tickhill and Sheffield. Can you perhaps tell me the source of the information you sent... is it from the LDS Family Search site? If it is-then  I am not sure just how accurate it  is  re dates etc ...as I have found some inaccuracies in regard the other side of the family when I came upon it. Is good as a guide though. While I didn't have the exact dates of the Teasdales family births, I had the years and they seem to tallyquite well.So is the same family and we must be connected.
I noticed on the LDS that a Thomas Teasdale married a Hannah Longden 26 Nov 1793 at Rotherham. Could this be George's father and would you know how I could verify this? The date seems to fit so is a possibility however there could be more than one.  You mentioned that Georges father was Thomas and his mother Hannah- any source for this?

You mentioned in your posts a certificate for Sarah Ann- daughter of Ann and Henry. Was this in the family or did you acquire it from the records office? Would welcome a copy and also of George and Hannah's.. any idea where I might be able to obtain this? Do you as descendants have anything you could share with me? To date I haven't found anyone else directly connected to the Teasdales of Tickhill. Would you have any idea as to the history regarding when they settled in Tickhill area and where they came from? There is a comment that while William b 1731 and wife Mary Smith 1732 resided at Rosedale his brother James b 1743 m Edith Chapman and son John 1787 settled at Colsterdale but they wouldn't fit if George's father was Thomas as he would have been born abt 1765-68. Any idea where Thomas and Hannah originated?
Interestingly if Hannah Longden is his wife there are two births I could find- one 24th July 1768 @ Doncaster - father Samuel and the other 27 th July 1774 @ Sheffield- father William. Of course there may be more not llsted.
By the way...I must say the Brightmore genealogy site you referred is very interesting. Many thanks for the reference. Really appreciate your help. It is so confusing!

[duckweed]

The certificate for Sarah Ann Jarvis and Richard Bullivant is from the records office.Registration of these records started in Sept 1837. All earlier records come from Parish records. At the moment Rotherham Records have come to me by a variety of sources. Although Rotherham is not far away I'm not able bodied so I'm still waiting for husband to take me there to look up the parish records myself and confirm them. One parish record Wickersley is not in the archives but still in the church and is not in good repair. Someone did make a copy I'm told but I haven't seen it. Rumours say there is one in Rotherham. I also use Sheffield Records Online where they have listed Rotherham marriages. There are 3 Teasdale marriages listed. To see them try http://sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk. Sheffield Parish Records are easier for me to see as I live about 2 miles from the archives. I must admit as it is a branch for me I haven't done a lot yet to double check sources though most info has come from more than one source online so they may be subject to error. The Bullivant side has much more documentary evidence. I'll email you Sarah Ann Jarvis's wedding certificate. 

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I note that the majority of Teasdales in the Rotherham district are miners as are the majority of Teasdales in Rosedale  http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Transcriptions/NRYRosedale/RosedaleT2.html
I note also a William Teasdale who was a policeman in Rosedale. Wasn't there a Teasdale policeman in NSW? I don't think it's a huge leap to suppose there may be a link between Rosedale Teasdales and Tickhill Teasdales.  I found a reference somewhere else to Birmingham Teasdales and Rosedale Teasdales but unfortunately the link to a family web page is now defunkt so can't investigate that further.  I need to investigate further Mary Teasdale/Brightmore/Blunn as the information certainly seems in conflict. I remember being told that the Rotherham archives had several company lists for employees to Quarries and Mines. However Quarry workers were often employed on a more casual basis by a Quarry Master so that may come up blank. There are the mining Teasdales in Rawmarsh and Silkstone. Not sure if employee details would list place of origin. Looking at Parish records for marriage details may not throw up anything either as it depended on Clerk how much detail was put. Usually it only states present address not anything else and may not even state parents. If the parents are present as witnesses then obviously that would help. Pre 1837 is more pot luck than post registration. Before 1837 they did start standardising the frmat for recording marriages but it is still up to how conscientious the person recording was and how readable his handwriting and how well the church has looked after the records.         

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Just found another Teasdale NSW connection under name Teasdel.  Thomas Teasdale born 1755 died 1823 Wife Ann Gee 1757-1827 had daughter Hannah Teasdale born 1774 Holborn Middlesex (eg London) moved to NSW and died Richmond NSW 18 July 1821.  try http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/batterbob/ft3.html May be no connection but thought you might find it interesting.