Arthur Kemp Maltby Rotherham

[duckweed]

Help me sort this out. In 1881 Arthur Kemp is an apprentice to William Stringer in Sheffield. He is put as a nephew as is Fred Bullivant. I think Arthur's father was Robert Kemp from Tickhill. I know that Fred Bullivant's grandmother is Anne Teasdale 1826 Tickhill married to Henry Jarvis 1826 Tickhill. Her sister Sarah married William Stringer. I know there is a Robert Jarvis Kemp in Tickhill so assume this is where the family linked in but can't find the link. Can anyone find just how Arthur is related to William Stringer or Sarah Stringer?

[CaroleW]

When was Arthur born
Where was he born

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[Christine in Portugal]

It appears to be the 1891 census not 1881.

Arthur was born 1873 according to that.

Christine

[duckweed]

Sorry it is 1891. Arthur is at 24 Clarence Street . So his birthdate was 1873. Fred Bullivants mother was Sarah Ann Jarvis born 1853 Ecclesall Bierlow his father Richard Bullivant bron 1854 Kilnhurst Rotherham. Sarah's parebts were Ann Teasdale and Henry Jarvis both 1824 and Tickhill. I've found a marriage in Tickhill of a Joseph Kemp to a Mary Jarvis in Tickhill 26th June 1808 so that looks where the family links but I don't know what relationship Mary Jarvis is to Henry Jarvis. As far as I know Joseph had a son called Robert and Robert is Arthurs father but haven't solidified these links as they are more an educated guess just now.

[duckweed]

My problem is Henry Jarvis and establishing his parents. What I know for sure is that is where Henry is  from 1861 as luckily he lived in the same place for a number of years and I have his address on his daughter Sarah Ann's marriage certificate. So in 1861 onwards he is living 49 Greystones Road Ecclesall Bierlow. His eldest daughter Eliza appears to have been born in Tickhill in 1850 so that leads me back to 1851 where he appears to be in Tickhill as a farm labourer and has a son William as well who is born 1846 approximately. But I can't find him in Tickhill in 1841. There are 3 Henry Jarvis at the right age but none of them are a good fit, one is in Doncaster and is deaf, another is a trainee cutler in Sheffield, and the third is in Rotherham with John Jarvis who is a Slater. Given the history of cutlers in the family did he try his luck and then give up and return to the land?

[Bronhill]

I am curious as Ann Teasdale b 1826 marrying Henry Jarvis and Sarah m William Stringer. Does anyone know anything about these people? Were they born Tickhill? Siblings of William b 1818? If so I am a descendant of him ( living in Australia) and am seeking info on origins of father George b c 1796 and mother Hannah nee Mathews.
Was Sarah employed by the Stringers c 1841 census time prior to marrying William Stringer?

[duckweed]

As far as I can tell although Sarah Teasdale was from Tickhill, William Stringer was not and was in fact born in Sheffield, son of Thomas Stringer who was also a penknife cutler born in Bradfield 21 Oct 1798 died 19 Jan 1858 and buried in the General Cemetery. Sarah's sister Ann married Henry Jarvis also from Tickhill (7 May 1826 ) Their daughter Sarah Ann Jarvis married into my husbands family by marrying Richard Bullivant who was born in Kilnhurst Rotherham in 1855. Their son Fred was apprenticed to William Stringer. Like you I had wondered if the Stringers were also connected to the Tickhill Stringers but as far as I know not.

[Bronhill]

That's ok- was not sure where William Stringer was born- although I have now found them on a census- listed as Strainer ( obviously a misscribe as in the copperplate writing it is definitely an "r" ansd has a g as well... very easy to read but I guess young people can't read copperplate writing these days!!! Says he was from Sheffield but it is only a short distance from Tickhill anyway.  
My ancestor William was born 1819 at Tickhill and had known siblings Mary b 1816, Sarah b c 1823 and Anne b 1826. His parents were George- married to Hannah Matthews  in 1815. 

William T came to Australia in 1836 and married and of course the rest is history.
 It was thought that Wills  father George came from Rosedale however with him being born @ Tickhill maybe not. 
William emigrated in 1836, so  figured the remainder of the family may be still on a census and this seemed to be the only family which came up at time of search... which indicated that George was born 1795/6 given his age was 45 as was Hannah on the census.  We only had him having three sisters- Mary 1816, Sarah 1823 and Anne 1826 and was surprised to find a George b 1828/9 ( listed as 12 on the census).

Our William was a businessman in South Australia and his son William a farmer.. as were his sons.

I am interested more in Anne, Sarah and Mary  and their descendants. Also if George 1828 being on a census was a younger brother.... and what happened to him.
I have been mapping some other Teasdales from Rosedale  given that wa smy starting point and could not find any at Tickhill as someone had written it as Thickhill!! Until I found another sheet of info buried in amongst a pile of family data! 

Do you possible have any info on the Teasdales?
Is good to get some feedback. 

[duckweed]

Definitely the same Teasdales.  I have in my family George Teasdale (sometimes Teesdale) born in Sheffield 1796 married to Hannah Matthews 8 June 1815 Ecclesfield, Sheffield. He is down in 1841 census as an agricultural labourer. Children Mary 15 Nov 1816 Tickhill, William 3 Feb 1819 Tickhill, George 9 Sep 1821 Tickhill, Sarah 11 May 1823 Tickhill, Anne Teasdale
1826 Tickhill.
Mary married Joseph Brightmore 24 Nov 1835 Rotherham and went to live in Catcliffe Rotherham.
Sarah married William Stringer. There may be a son William as there is a William Stringer mentioned as apprentice in one census.
Ann married Henry Jarvis a farm labourer in Tickhill. They moved to Greystones in Sheffield where Henry had a job as a coachman and then a gardener. His daughter Sarah Ann married Richard Bullivant from Kilnhurst Rotherham. He was a trained butcher but later went on to be a Gardener. He lied about his age at the wedding and claimed to be 21 when in fact he was 19. This could account for the fact that there are no Bullivant witnesses at the wedding. I'm told he was an educated man so would have known when he was born.  The Brightmores were connected with the Blunns who were major glass manufacturers in Catcliffe. Their bottle kilns still exist there today. Mary Teasdales niece by marriage Lucy Ann Brightmore married Joseph Ramsbottom Blunn. One of our Bullivant family worked there before going to Sheffield. Many of the Bullivants were stone masons in Wickersley making the grinding stones for the Sheffield Grinders. Presumably that would be the occupation of the Teasdales too.  Stringer is a common name throughout the Sheffield and Rotheram area and is misspelt a lot so not always the easiest to trace.  I haven't traced George Teasdale but I'll have a try.