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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 30 October 08 05:37 GMT (UK) »
Daizi the name Florence for mother of the groom on the marriage cert has been added in a different hand....and it is also the name of the mother of the bride :-\

I am wondering if  the deaths of their children resulted in an inquest?  I am trying to think of all the reasons that a couple may want to change their name and move to another suburb...well country town in those days.  Perhaps a request for a lookup.

I don't think the birth of Ethel Mary with mother Mary KING is one of your family....date is too close [1888]to the birth of Alfred Lionel [1889]for the child to be 2 years of age.  Some of the other births weren't registered.

Only way I can think of identifying if KING and JOHNSON are the one and the same is by comparing signatures...but as Mary Jane appeared to register the births - well the certs you have, I guess that option isn't available.

I have just about run out of ideas....well so far ;D

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 30 October 08 08:38 GMT (UK) »
hi ya  Cando

Thanks for all that,  i ran out of ideas ages ago...lol

Maybe the Mary isnt theres,  is hard to say,  i think i will get the marriage cert of James and Mary Jane and see what that brings,  -  hopefully it wont bring more confusion.....

NOW,   have just looked back on my tree,  and Violets mother wasnt Florence either,  Violet's parents were George Wood-Burgess and Bridget Lee....

Oh the mind boggles

Think i will go and bang my head against the wall

Thanks again Cando i REALLY appreciate your input

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 30 October 08 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Morning Cando, 

I think YOU may be on to something,  i checked the Inquest Index,  and have found Albert Ernest KING  1885 -  which is the same year,  says died as infant,  due to imoerfect feeding ?  what ever that is,  am going to request if any one is going there,  maybe ,   just maybe it may have a clue, 
Just thinking,    maybe something happened,  because ....he died as a king in 1885 ,  and by 1889 name changed ????
Maybe  something

And to the other stuff,  not sure what the obsession is with both of  them saying there mothers name was Florence. . when niether was,  Although ALfred Lionel and Violet were married only 10 days before there 1st child born,

OK,  am off to post a request

Will keep you posted ......

Thanks heaps

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Dixon Australia and Cumberland

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 31 October 08 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Daizie could the cause of death be imperfect feeding? ?

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 31 October 08 02:27 GMT (UK) »
I think YOU may be on to something,  i checked the Inquest Index,  and have found Albert Ernest KING  1885 -  which is the same year,  says died as infant,  due to imoerfect feeding ?  what ever that is,  am going to request if any one is going there,  maybe ,   just maybe it may have a clue, 


Hi Daizi

I can do this for you, won't be until the 2nd Saturday in November though.  Can you pm the inquest reference to me.

Regards

Genni
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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 31 October 08 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gennig,   Have PM you,  and replied on other post  thanls again

Cando.  Yes imperfest feeding,  sorry,  fingers were goimg faster than my brain.......  whats that ?  do you know. 


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Dixon Australia and Cumberland

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #33 on: Friday 31 October 08 03:50 GMT (UK) »
I think you may have to wait for the inquest details....perhaps incorrect feeding...bit of a strange verdict.  I wonder if that is the summary of the transcriber, Marjory Knight?   

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #34 on: Friday 31 October 08 04:10 GMT (UK) »

I agree Cando,  a strange verdict,  the papers will make interesting reading,

Have 'googled'  imperfect feeding,  but nothing comes up,   also checked the medical  sites and cant see anything it could be....

The plot thickens.........lol
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Dixon Australia and Cumberland

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #35 on: Friday 31 October 08 04:50 GMT (UK) »
Is  it  possible or even probable  that  no  marriage  did take  place  as Mary  has  registered  the  birth  she  could  have  name  the father (which may or mayn ot have been  the case) without an actual marriage taking  place?

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