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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 05:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cando

Have emailed 4 certs,   

Should arrive soon

Thanks again

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Dixon Australia and Cumberland

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 05:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you :)

Yes I also wondered about a 2nd or is it 3rd marriage :-\

From previous thread

OK On Alfred Lionel Johnson's birth cert (1889)
Ellen  age 16  think we found her birth as Helen ?
Eliza  age  11
Henry (decd)
George Henry (decd)
Alfred Ernest  (Decd)
Annie   (decd)
Ethal  Mary ?   age 2

Craizi


Can only find Alfred Ernest's death [registered as Albert Ernest] ...has anyone else tried to find the other childrens' deaths.

George Henry is registered at birth as George Edward.

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 05:26 GMT (UK) »
Cando, 

Have tried to trace the other kids - the ones born under KING,  but have no idea where they changed there name to Johnson also,  and its a common name....

As you will see,  there was no marriage for a William Johnson and Mary Jane Dixon or King, 
Only 1 marriage and that was to James King

SO either they the same person,  or James King died,  ( and a few James Kings on the index,)  and William stepped in BUT never married her ??

Yes think i will have to get James King and Mary Jane 's marriage as i cant find her birth either,  and it may give a clue....or may not as this family is crazy !! 

Thanks again
 
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Flisher : UK and Sth Africa and Australia<br />Munro  : Scotland,  Inverness, Ross and Cromarty and Australia<br />Prust   : Bristol, UK, and Australia<br />Woodburgess/Wood/Burgess/Wood-Burgess,  Adcock/Brudenall in Lincolnshire UK and Australia<br />Taylor :Yorkshire,  Nottinghamshire and Australia<br />Mathers  : Montrose , Scotland and Australia<br />Johnson  :  ?? and Australia
Dixon Australia and Cumberland

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 05:36 GMT (UK) »
Yes I agree you need the marriage cert to check signatures.

However the deaths of the chn occurred before the birth registration in 1889.  Perhaps something happened prior to this date that caused the change of surname.....? death of child/children. 

Also something odd about the registration of Ethel Mary with father Unknown and mother Mary KING...? Mary Jane DIXON's child as a Ethel M is named on the birth cert of Alfred Lionel.

Thinking cap is on ;D

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 05:44 GMT (UK) »
Ohhhh thanks Cando, 

Yes the marriage is next on my list.....long list, 

I did look for a marriage for William Johnson or death for James btw the last born King child and 1st born Johnson child,  but nothing,

Both lot of certs {the King cert and Johnson certs}  givest he marriage date of parents as the same ??

Weird,  maybe they ran in to trouble with the law or something,  because they moved a long way away and then changed names  - from St Kilda area to Healesville area.

But as Johnson and King are both common names,   

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Flisher : UK and Sth Africa and Australia<br />Munro  : Scotland,  Inverness, Ross and Cromarty and Australia<br />Prust   : Bristol, UK, and Australia<br />Woodburgess/Wood/Burgess/Wood-Burgess,  Adcock/Brudenall in Lincolnshire UK and Australia<br />Taylor :Yorkshire,  Nottinghamshire and Australia<br />Mathers  : Montrose , Scotland and Australia<br />Johnson  :  ?? and Australia
Dixon Australia and Cumberland

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 06:04 GMT (UK) »
Now I think that MITCHISON/MITCHINSON  is a name from the DIXON side of the family  -  perhaps Mary Jane's mother's maiden name

Death
KING George Edward
Father James  Mother Mary Jane MITCHISON
Age 5 Months  Birth Place Sand  No death place 
1875  Reg# 8806

and then I noticed this when trawling the DIXON's names - and there  may be no connection but.....

Death
DIXON Elizabeth
Father MICHINSON Robert  Mother Mary DODD
68 yrs  at Skipton  1901 Reg#3640

The name had to come from somewhere on Alfred's Lionel marriage cert.   Perhaps a relative.

More confusion.

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 06:22 GMT (UK) »
OK

going on from your though of Mitchisons....

There is a few kids born to Robert Dixon and Elizabeth Mitchison.  around the time Mary Jane was born,  all in the Skipton area, 

Cant see a Mary Jane at all,  just a Jane born 1867,  but that dosnt tally with her age on the birth certs of the kids

Hmmmm   

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Flisher : UK and Sth Africa and Australia<br />Munro  : Scotland,  Inverness, Ross and Cromarty and Australia<br />Prust   : Bristol, UK, and Australia<br />Woodburgess/Wood/Burgess/Wood-Burgess,  Adcock/Brudenall in Lincolnshire UK and Australia<br />Taylor :Yorkshire,  Nottinghamshire and Australia<br />Mathers  : Montrose , Scotland and Australia<br />Johnson  :  ?? and Australia
Dixon Australia and Cumberland

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 06:35 GMT (UK) »
I realise they have fairly common names but noted the following -

Australian Electoral Rolls
1901
JOHNSON  Mary Jane  193 Dorcas Street, South Melbourne  Home duties
JOHNSON  William  193 Dorcas Street, South Melbourne  Labourer

Four of their chn were born at Sandridge which in 1884 became Port Melbourne...and Albert Ernest died at Port Melbourne in 1885 so perhaps they returned to the general area.

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Re: Is it worth trying to figure this family out ?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 06:37 GMT (UK) »
OK

going on from your though of Mitchisons....

There is a few kids born to Robert Dixon and Elizabeth Mitchison.  around the time Mary Jane was born,  all in the Skipton area, 

Cant see a Mary Jane at all,  just a Jane born 1867,  but that dosnt tally with her age on the birth certs of the kids

Hmmmm   

Daizi

 

Don't you think it is strange that the name popped up on the marriage cert?

Cheers
Cando
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