Derriaghy L.O.L. 135 - 1934

[Stiubhard]

Hello fmni,

John Partridge is my great grandfather. They lived in Aughalislone, Dunmurry,Derriaghy.

I have Boomer's (my grandfather) articles from the LOL and R.B.P. in Derriaghy.
His number  with his medals are LOL 602. His R.B.P as 292.
When he came to Toronto his LOL number was 711.

I don't know about the change of location to Hillsborough, except the woman he married was from there, Jane Leckey, my grandmother.
John Partridge had a son James, B. 1857

I appreciate the information that was in your last email. I will stay on this site for sure.

My great grandfather, William John (Willie John) Young married Sarah Partridge in Johnstone, Renfrewshire, on the 17th of July 1874.  Sarah's father was Thomas Partridge and her mother was Mary Jane Scales, of the Partridge family from Derriaghy.  They returned to Northern Ireland where their first child, Dorothea, was born in Lisburn. Dorothea sadly died in infancy.  Sarah's sister Lucy married a guy called Paddy Matthews who was a boot and shoe maker in Chapel Hill, Lisburn.   One of my great uncles remembered going with my great grandfather to visit Paddy, and remembered being told that he had fought in the Zulu war. Unlike the Partridges, the Matthews family were RC.  Paddy and Lucy had nine sons and a daughter, and one of their sons, William, was killed on the 24th March 1918 while serving with the 2nd battalion of the Royal Irish Rifles.   I have found that earlier generations of Partridges sometimes spelled the name as 'Patridge' without the first 'r'.

[Mykin]

Hello stiubhard,
Thanks for joining us in this topic. We seem to have all of the same names and places but haven't made the connection yet.
What were the names of the other children from Sarah and William?
When was William John Born?
I have a Thomas from about 1758 and a son Thomas from about 25 years later. The name probably should have continued but there is a blank space in my information from the 1780's approx to 1810 with the birth of John Partridge,
I have a Dorothea but she lived for about 60 yrs.
What church did your people attend? Mine were at Christ Church Derriaghy, and Lisburn Cathedral.
  Hopefully we can make a connection.    mykin

[Stiubhard]

Hi Mykin.  The Young family connection to Lisburn/Derriaghy seems to be through Sarah Partridge.  Willie John Young was born in Dublin around 1853 and the pair were married while they were both living in Scotland, so it could be that they met there. It says on the marriage certificate that they were married "according to the rites of the English Church", so Anglican, but on the 1901 and 1911 censuses the family is listed as Methodist.  After the birth (and death) in 1975 there was another daughter, Martha, born possibly in Lisburn in 1876.  The family then returned to Scotland where the next five children were born in Partick: Lucinda c1880, William c1882, James (my grandfather) 1883, Sarah c1886 and Thomas c1888.  They then came back to Belfast where the remaining five children were born: Frederick Arnot c1890; Francis c1891;  Elizabeth c1893, Walter Fisher c1895 and George c1899.  I don't know what the Arnot and Fisher connection is, perhaps they are related to the Partridges?  Sarah was 19 when she married in 1874 so she was born around 1855.  Her sister Lucy was born around 1865. The dates for their mother, Mary Jane Partridge (Scales) would appear to be c1828 to 1878 so a good guess might be that her husband Thomas was a couple of years older, so maybe born around 1825?  There is a death for a Thomas Partridge born 1824 died in the first quarter of 1887 in the Civil Registration Index for Belfast might be worth exploring. 

[Mykin]

Hi again, I cannot find anything that comes up under the heading of civil registration Index, online Belfast some of them turn into Family search. Do you have to go there in person? I live in Canada.
I am still going to keep on with all of your names and try to connect. I checked the gravestones at Derriaghy but didn't see anyPartridges of yours there, which just means there wasn't a marker on the grave. Maybe the Lisburn Cathedral will turn up something.

[aghadowey]

The Irish civil registration index is online (free) at www.familysearch.org. The actual certificates are not online. Some extracted birth, deaths and marriages are alos on LDS site but the collections are not complete for the dates listed-
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084

[MulhollandHart]

with your interest I thought you might be interested in this note as well,

Royal Orange Association County Antrim District
The Right Worshipful Doctor William Atkinson of Belfast Grand Master
The Revd Philip Johnston Grand Chaplain
Brother William Hart of Lisburn Grand Secretary

General Committee

The Right Worshipful Doctor William Atkinson Grand Master Chairman

Edward Hogg Esq 354 Lisburn
The Revd Philip Johnston 317 Ballymacash
Thomas McCully 224 Soliderstown
Michael Boomer 137 Derriaghy
Stephen Daniel 238 Belfast
James Innes 152 Lisburn
John Johnston 244 Lisburn
Thomas Briggs 121 Maze
William Johnston 143 Ballinderry
Thomas Shillington 403 Aghagallon
William Murphy 146 Magheragall*
William Hart Grand Secretary

This was the First County Grand Lodge formed April 1798

From a Lecture given by Brother James Verner Hart at the request of the Brethen of the Eldon Orange Lodge No 7 in their rooms in the Orange Hall College Street Belfast March 8th 1875.



I think the William Hart mentioned here might be my Great Grandfathers brother. I know he lived in Derrighay in 1911 and my Gx2 and my great grandfathers were both Orangemen. I think his wife's name was Annie from Drunmore(? handwriting) and he came from Lambeg.

I would love to know a bit more if there is any.

[Lousy Borne]

William Hart was origionally from Churchill in County Armagh In 1796 he was working in Lisburn as a clerk in the offices of Lord Hertford

[nabrowne]

I would be most interested in obtaining a copy of this picture as two of my Great Uncles are in it.  How could I go about this?

Regards

[Rosniak]

My 2 x great grandfather Thomas Clarke was district master of Magheragall District in the 1880s and master of Lodge No. 1180 (not sure which one this was? It must have been in Magheragall/Derriaghy district).

His son John Clarke was a master of Brookhill Star and Garter RBP No. 579 and also a member of Oak Masonic Lodge 326, Ballinderry in the 1920s.

Would there be any photos/information available of any of these lodges? I would probably be able to identify the men in question.