CHAMPION or BEER from Monkleigh

[chrisc]

Hi,

Currently researching CHAMPION and BEER ancestors from Monkleigh, Devon.  Any information anyone can supply will be gratefully received.

C

[wozzle]

11 people with the surname champion born in monkleigh devon and living in devon in 1861
do you have any first names or dates of births anything could help .

[chrisc]

Hi Wozzle,

I'm looking for;

John CHAMPION G G Grandfather b. abt 1823
Ann (BEER) CHAMPION G G Grandfather b. abt 1823
John Beer CHAMPION son b. abt 1849
Mary Ann CHAMPION daughter b. abt 1852
Thirza CHAMPION daugther b. abt 1855
Elizabeth CHAMPION daughter b. abt 1858
William Henry CHAMPION son b. abt 1859
Samuel CHAMPION son b. abt 1863

C

[toni*]

ah ha another cousin
you  have not seen my sc hunt for last week then !


Part 1
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,334332.285.html

part 2
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,334768.0.html

[chrisc]

Hi Toni,

Have been reading some of the replies associated to the links you passed on.  Can't remeber exactly which page I saw it on but there was a reference to a Joshua Beer.  I have a copy of John Champion and Ann Beer's marriage certificate; married 31 Mar 1849 at Monkleigh Parish Church. The certificate was signed in the presence of Joshua Beer and William Beer.  William Beer being the father of Ann.

C

[toni*]

Ann is he daughter of William Beer and Charlotte Wheeler

[toni*]

are you sure the witness was William Anns father and not William Anns brother ?

[chrisc]

Difficult to say. 

The certificate does not indicate the witness is either the father or brother.  I have made an assumption that William is the father because it has recorded on the certificate Father; William Beer, Labourer.

C

[toni*]

marriage certs don't give relations to witnesses - witnesses can be anyone as long as they are old enough to understand what they are witnessing 

inidentally 31 March 1838 is when Philip Beer m. Eliza Parkhouse