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Re: Harleston COOPER
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 25 October 08 20:50 BST (UK) »
Farmer to bankrupt coal merchant in four years not bad.

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Re: Harleston COOPER
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 25 October 08 21:15 BST (UK) »
Its surprising what info you can find in Google books. ;D
Census information is Crown Copyright  -  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Harleston COOPER
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 October 08 00:12 BST (UK) »
I think this refers to Harleston Hall in Harleston a tiny village just three miles from Stowmarket not to be confused with the larger Harleston, a market town + railways connections which is just to the north of Suffolk in 'that other place'  ;D

White's of 1844 refers to Jacob Bradley Cooper being a farmer at the Hall, and there is mention that most of the land in Harleston and Dagworth is in the manor of Harleston Hall.

In 1844 (presumably using figures from the 1841 census) the population of Harleston was 90.

If Jacob was married at Cockfield, possibly this was his wife's parish?

Pat ...

Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Harleston COOPER
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 October 08 00:31 BST (UK) »
Have checked www.old-maps.co.uk and putting in Harleston Suffolk shows the Hall very clearly on the map for 1889.

Checked my Ordnance Survey map for Stowmaket area and Harleston clearly marked, together with Harleston Hall.

The 'A Church Near You' website shows the church today and states that it is next to The Hall.
http://www.achurchnearyou.com/harleston-st-augustine/

Some lovely photographs of the church as always at http://www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/harleston.html
Simon may have added a couple of them this year as he has re-visited the church since his initial entry ten years ago.

Have checked through 'Suffolk Houses, a study of domestic architecture' and there is no mention of the Hall under large houses, moated houses, so I think it probably is a farmhouse.

There is a Local History Recorder at Harleston, but snail mail only.

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Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?


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Re: Harleston COOPER
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 October 08 05:34 GMT (UK) »
Burial:
Hannah Cooper (age 42, abode Harleston)
on 12 Jan 1841 in Harleston

Jacob remarried...

1851 Census of Harleston, Suffolk
HO 107/1794 folio 706 page 14
Address: Harleston Hall
Jacob Bradley Cooper,  head, 60, farmer of 300 A employ 12 labourers, Harleston Suffolk
Eliza, wife, 34, Cockfield Suffolk
James, son, 7, Harleston Suffolk
Thomas, son, 5, Harleston Suffolk
Albert, son, 3, Harleston Suffolk
Sarah, daur, 1, Harleston Suffolk
plus three servants


Burial:
Jacob Bradley Cooper (age 73, abode Haughley)
on 11 Jan 1860 in Harleston

Other Cooper burials in Harleston:
John (age 67) on 19 Feb 1819
Dinah (age 79) on 26 Apr 1828
Joanna Ennew (age 20) on 25 July 1829
Louisa (age 17) on 11 May 1837
James (age 18) on 3 May 1862


[Suffolk Burials Index]
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Harleston COOPER
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 26 October 08 09:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much.
Elizabeth's Husband John Smith was a farmer born in Hawstead and farmed Braggons Farm at Boxted so the fact that she came from a farmimg family and not from a grand Hall would fit and although in the Ipswich Chronicle it say Harleston Hall Norwich she was very consistent in putting Suffolk for her birth place in all the census so it looks like that is the place.
All those other Coopers buried in Harleston, now I just need to find a connection to my Elizabeth.

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Re: Harleston COOPER
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 26 October 08 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Another snippet from White's

There are 620 acres in the parish partly copyhold and partly in the manors of Haughley and Dagworth but mostly in the manor of Harleston Hall - which belongs to Lady Hotham who rebuilt the Hall in the Elizabethan style some years ago.  It is occupied by a farmer (so Jacob was a tenant).

Pat ...


Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Harleston COOPER
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 26 October 08 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the extra info.

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Re: COOPER - Harleston
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 30 October 08 13:31 GMT (UK) »
I have just found from my parish lookup request that an Elizabeth Cooper was baptised at around the right time for my Elizabeth and her mothers name was Bradley so looks like Jacob could well have been her brother.
Thanks again