Lesanne's Smith/Williams combo Pt 2... Everyone welcome to join in....... !!!

[toni*]

 

[jamajo]

  And this looks like Jesse's marriage Deb

     Dec 1863 Jesse Weller to Betsy Cock at Wycombe

             Vol 3a    Page 615

[toni*]

what if they married pre registration how about 31st August 1837

[jamajo]

 Gotta post

 Marriage

Dec 1893 Annie Weller, others on page Frederick Lacey, Frederick Judge and Sarah Louise Gill
     
             Vol 3a   Page 1041

   Is this a possible

  Added...... Forgot marriage was at Wycombe

[toni*]

theres no IGI bps for Weller in Crowell C024481
marriages aren't covered

[deb usa]

okay the Wellers are giving me a headache .... so I'm returning to the Williams kids

d/o George Williams and Mary Ives

1851=
Mary Ann 1833 = 18 b Risborough
 Elizabeth 1835 = 16 b Ditto
these 2 are with their mother in 1851 (along with Harriet aged 9)in Speen, Ellen (b 1831) is missing!

re Elizabeth b 1835

marriage'
Elizabeth Williams = Henry Penn
 Sept q 1859
Wycombe  
 3a   537  

1861
Hughenden
Piggots common  
Henry PENN head mar  28 ag lab b Mks Ris
ELIZABETH PENN wife 26 lace maker b PR
Booz son 4 months .... now there's a name   Boaz maybe??

Blimey it gets even worse ...poor boy !!!  

birth
Boar Penn
mar q 1861  
Wycombe  
 3a  397  

1871Hughenden
Piggotts
Henry Penn 38 farm lab
Elizabeth 36 lace maker
BOAZ son 10 ...Oh thank goodness a real name LOL
Ruth 9
Noah 7
Miriam 5
Deborah 4
Jabez 2
John 1
all kids b Hughenden
Sounds like a pretty religious family ...all the Bible names!


a very busy couple this ... Oh my
1881
Piggotts Common
Henry Penn 48
Elizabeth wife 46
Jabez 12
Martha 8
Mary 6
John 2 ( umm seems like the other John must have died)

1891
High Wycombe, Chipping Wycombe
11 George st
Henry (a woodman) and Elizabeth have son John 12 (timber boy)with them ...also a boarder , Alfred Filby, 27 carpenter

1901
Elizabeth Penn wid 66 pillow lace maker own account b Speen
  ...she's all alone  

deb

[Spidermonkey]

I've been wondering about the names - do you think they may suggest a non-conformist (perhaps Baptist?) leaning?

[deb usa]

Summary

George(1803) and Mary(1802) nee Ives...
Speen. Bucks.

children:
1. George 1824
2. Thomas 1826 +(1847) Mariah Lacey(1826)  They have been followed through!
3. Caroline 1828
4. Ellen 1831 missing in 1851
5. Mary Ann 1833 with mum 1851
6. Elizabeth 1835 with mum 1851
7.Joseph 1836
8. Harriet 1842


1. George Williams = Sarah Dormer
Sept q 1847
children :
Jesey/Jessey bc 1850
big gap
Lucy bc 1856
Emma bc 1858 ...did she die see other Emma
Caroline bc 1860 (1861 census 3 months. 20 in 1881), bc 1858 (1871 census 13 yrs)
Thomas bc 1861/1864 = ( 10 in 1871, BUT 17 in 1881)
Emma bc 1864
veryyyyyy confusing  

2.  Thomas Williams 1826 (d 1850)  = Mariah Lacey(1826) Lesanne's direct rellies
marriage 1847
John Williams 1848 = Ann Smith kids; Kate 1878 (=William COxhead), Ada 1869-1930, John 1872, Thomas 1875, Rose 1876 ...still all to be found in 1891

Maria Lacey Smith = Daniel Janes
children;
Owen 1857
Boaz 1862
Walter 1865


3. Caroline Williams (b 1828, d betw 1891-1901) = John Brooks
sept q  1862  
children:
Deborah Williams 1842 Lacey Green (single in 1901)
Martha Brooks bc 1864 Hughenden  school teacher (single in 1901)
Fanny Margaret Brooks bc 1868 Hughenden school teacher = Harry Stratford in dec q 1893 (children :Sidney 1895, Herbert 1900/1)

4. Ellen Williams = Thomas Saunders   compliments of Sue aka Jamajo 
Dec q 1849
children :
Elizabeth 1850 Ris
George 1854 Ris
Isaac 1856 Ris
Alfred 1858 Ris

5. Mary Ann Williams ...still to be done ..last seen age 18 with mum in 1851 census.

6. Elizabeth Williams = Henry Penn
 sept q 1859
Children:
Booz/Boar/Boaz Mar 1861
Ruth 1862
Noah 1864
Miriam 1866
Deborah 1867
Jabez 1869
John 1870
Martha 1873
Mary 1875
John 1879

phew ! She must have been exhausted!!!!

7. Joseph Williams = Mary A ?? (b Berks)
no marriage found
No children.
do we have him in 1861?


8. Harriet Williams = William Barefoot (lab in the woods  )
Oct q 1859
Children; (as of 1871 census)
Julia 1862
Thomas son 1864
Alice 1866
Harry 1867
Owen 1870
1881 census = Florence J  13months
1891 census = Frances dau 26 mother's keep dom / who is she ?? where was she on the 1871 and 1881?

[sdbadger]

Les:

Because of the WILLIAMS being so close to mine (we've discussed this before in chat), I thought it might be good to post a tree with my WILLIAMS on it.  My cousin has a tree on ancestry ... here is the link to the common relative(s) she and I share.  We start with John WILLIAMS m. Sarah TAPPIN and I descend from one of their children and she from another.

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/person.aspx?pid=-1111862604&tid=7350000&ssrc=

Go from there to follow the WILLIAMS.  Hope you find a match!