MITCHELL - Hastings

[casalguidi]

I would have assumed that the nickname only applied to one person.  That was certainly the case with Folkestone fishermen.

Was this custom of giving complete families the same nickname peculiar to Hastings?

Casalguidi

[Clazy2000]

Hi
Having looked closer at the reference to 'Quiddy' it may be a one off nickname. What threw me was the earlier use of 'Quid' Mitchell as well.
However other fishermen did pass certain nicknames on from father to son. Steve Peak says in his book:
'Some nicknames are alternatives to surnames...These alternatives are passed down from one generation to the next, as are substitute first names eg Weazel White'.
Some were used to identify which line of the family the fisherman belonged to such as in the case of the Adams fishermen, some were Tonser some Toller and therefore you get Tom Toller, Joey Toller etc.
But as you rightly said, most were assigned to individuals such as Ned ' Wintry' Adams because as a youngster he could identify all the stars in the winters night sky
 I think when it was passed from generation to generation it was an instantaneous 'badge' saying I belong to this line of the family and this was used where the close knit fishing community inter-married.
To find out for sure whether 'Quid' or 'Quiddy' belonged to an individual or was used as a family name, The Hastings Fishermen's Protection Society would probably be able to help. If you want to delve into it that far. I had to as when researching 'Adams' there were just so many of them.
It would be interesting to see if any other fishing communities used nicknames as an indication of family lines as they did in Hastings.
Other references to this aspect appear in J. Manwaring Baines' Historic Hastings' p358 Appendix III 'Fisherman's Nicknames'
Regards
Clazy2000

[Claire Bear]

Wow Gill you certainly know your stuff!  I'm impressed

[baloo]

I am researching the Adams family from hastings, I do not know which branch as yet can anyone help

[Eagleone]

To Claire Bear.

Can you tell me what interest you have in the family tree of the Mitchells of Hastings. If you are related to the Mitchells, then you are related to myself---I
am a descendant of Charles' brother, John Frederick Mitchell. His grandson,
another John, was the last family to run pleasure trips of the beach. This John
is my great grandfather. He had five son, the eldest, another John is my
mother's father.
 

[baloo]

Hi. Sorry I'm not related to the Mitchell 's of Hastings. The Mitchell's that I have in my family tree are.

 Joseph Mitchell, GG/Grandfather  b  c1823 Northampton, his daughter Selina Mitchell, G/Grandmother  b1852 who married Edward Winter b Godalming Surry 1853.

Hope this helps
baloo

[Eagleone]

Has anyone have any information, photograph's etc, etc on the Mitchell's who ran pleasure trips of Hastings seafront in front of the amusement arcade between the 1940s to the late 70s.
From Eagleone.

[Eagleone]

....."Gilbert de Aquila, surnamed the Great, who flourished in the 11th century was called Gislebertus Magnus (Magnus I., the Great King of Norway & Denmark 1035-47). This name was again Latinised (transformed) into Saxonise (English) as Gilbert Michel (evolved as Michell) ; and it is remarkable that although the family (descendants of one common ancestor) of which he was head is extinct in the legitimately (the act of investing with the rights and privileges of lawful birth) from him still in existence---one for their patronymic (a name derived from that of a parent or ancestor) Eagles, from Aquila, and the other Michel, from Magnus---the one his family, the other his personal surname"....."the distinguished (famous) family of Aquila, Lord's of the Honour (a title of distinction) and Barony of Pevensey, or, as it was named after them, of the Eagle, was the source of two Sussex families of Michel (Michell, or even, Mitchell) and Eagles---Gilbert was the prevelant Christian name of the Aquila's---Michel-ham (Michel---personal surname/ham---homestead ; Michel's people living by the stream) Priory was founded by Gilbert III de Aquila"....."with respect to the presumed origin (derived from an ancestor) of the family of Michell in that that of the distinguished house of Aquila, from whom the Honor of the Eagle was named, and for some remarks upon the coat of Arms---and will therefore proceed to the evidence on which the accompanying pedigree (ancestor) is founded---of the Cuckfield Registers---and having been able to ascertain to what parish or county the family subsquently moved, I have been able to carry the pedigree further".....'the Michell's of Cuckfield, Eastbourne, Hastings & the Stammerham & Field Place Estates Michells and other's.....
Eagleone (*)

Gilbert III de Aquila (who built Michelham Priory in 1220 and granted it to the Augustinian Black Canons of the Holy Trinity of Hastings in 1229) owned Cuckfield parish in the western area of Sussex in his term of office, before his death in 1231ad---creating Sussex's Oldest Family---The Michell's.....Gilbert the 3rd is my 21st great grandfather.

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[suepeggram]

I'm hoping an attachment has worked if so it is a photo of a Quiddy Mitchell from Sussex. I have some Mitchells on my line who married into Hides from Eastbourne and came across this pic one day and saved it thinking it maybe linked to my tree but not as yet.