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Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« on: Friday 24 October 08 03:49 BST (UK) »
Howard Arthur Butler (m) Catherine Redding in Egypt @1919.  They had Hubert Arthur Joseph Butler @1921 and Gurtrude Catherine Butler @1924.  Howard died in Dandenong, Victoria in 1961 aged 62.  I'm seeking descendants if you are out there please get in touch.

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Julie

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Re: Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 October 08 17:04 GMT (UK) »
This is them emigrating to Melbourne 1954,in case you dont have it.

       Mr HOWARD A BUTLER age 56 departed 10th Feb 1954.  Insurance.
       Ship  New Australia, Southampton to Melbourne.
       Tourist class.
       Address, 13, Rutland Rd Southport, Lancs.

       Mrs Katherine Butler age 54, Housewife,same address.

       There are other Butlers on board also Lancs,but different address.

This info is taken from Find My Past.
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Re: Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 October 08 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there Julie

do  you  know  if  the children also emmigrated

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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 October 08 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Unable to find either Hubert or Gurtrude/Gertrude Butler going out to Aus.
They could well both have married in England.

There is only this one entry which doesnt match very well.
     Mstr H BUTLER age 10,
sailed on the Otranto 3rd May 1933 from London, one of many children sent by the
Child Emigration Society, Public Assistance Commitee House, 115 Strand WC2.

Best I can do.
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Perthshire Scotland,Cork,Dublin,Drogheda Ireland.
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Re: Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 October 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx

there is an arrival for a Gerturde Butler in 1966 on a a Flight into Melbourne but  no  age or matiral status shown.  You  would have to request a digital copy to see any  further information

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 June 13 11:33 BST (UK) »
Howard Arthur Butler (m) Catherine Redding in Egypt @1919.  They had Hubert Arthur Joseph Butler @1921 and Gurtrude Catherine Butler @1924.  Howard died in Dandenong, Victoria in 1961 aged 62.  I'm seeking descendants if you are out there please get in touch.

Thank you
Julie

Hi Julie,

I am the grand daughter of Howard Arthur Butler & Catherine Redding, Gill(ian) Butler.  Currently living in Australia. My aunt Trudy Gerturde Catherine Carroll nee Butler. My father Hubert was born in Alexandria, Egypt. How are you connected to Howard Arthur Butler?

Regards,

Gill


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Re: Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 February 22 12:24 GMT (UK) »
I have only just joined and I see the post is from a few years ago. My husband is related to the Redding family. His Mother was born in Alexandria Egypt & Gertie a first cousin with 'Kate' her Auntie. She moved to England in the 1950s and settled here. Please do make contact if you are still using this site. Thank you

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Re: Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 February 22 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Howard Arthur Butler (m) Catherine Redding in Egypt @1919.  They had Hubert Arthur Joseph Butler @1921 and Gurtrude Catherine Butler @1924.  Howard died in Dandenong, Victoria in 1961 aged 62.  I'm seeking descendants if you are out there please get in touch.

Thank you
Julie

Hi Julie

There are four Gertrude Butlers on the electoral roll in Victoria in the greater Melbourne area between 1960-1980: Gertrude Veronica Butler; Gertrude Thelma Butler; Gertrude Ellen Butler and a woman simply known as 'Gertrude Butler'. On top of this there are a number of women with the surname Butler and middle name "Gertrude" on the Victorian electoral roll for this period.

There is for example an Elsie Gertrude Butler on the roll in 1963 and 1967 and 1968 in Dandenong, Victoria at 53 Scott St., Dandenong. Nobody of voting age is listed as living with her with the same surname in any of these listings.

I suggest this may be Elsie Gertrude's death certificate, she died in 1970 (if indeed, she is your relative)
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/62078b165792241c4093ee83/record/5c654e744aba80ac313d21a6?q=efamily&givenName=Elsie%20Gertrude&familyName=BUTLER

There are also some very early listings for men with "Howard Butler" in their name on the Victoria electoral roll, the only ones available:
Thomas Howard Butler, 1928, Murtoa, Wimmera, Victoria
Sidney Howard Butler, 1909, Yea, Mernda, Victoria
Sydney Howard Butler, 1914, Sea Lake, Wimmera, Victoria
Sydney Howard Butler, 1909, Ferntree Gully, Flinders, Victoria
Sidney Howard Kinglake Butler, 1913, Yea, Indi, Victoria
Sidney Howard Butler, 1912, Yea, Mernda, Victoria
Sydney Howard Butler, 1913, Ferntree Gully, Flinders, Victoria
Sidney Howard Butler, 1909, Yea, Mernda, Victoria
Sydney Howard Butler, 1903, Ferntree Gully, Mernda, Victoria

I don't know if any of these would match your family.

Unfortunately I can't find a Howard Butler on the roll living in Dandenong in more modern times.

I believe however, this must be his death certificate, he is listed as being born in Thornbury, England, and dying in 1961 in Dandenong:

search results:
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/62078b165792241c4093ee83/results?q=efamily

There is a link to order a pdf file for $20AUD (approx £10)


The information on Vic BDM is perhaps amongst one of the most detailed in the world   

https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

Here is the RootsChat thread with details of what to expect on Vic BDM.  It is included in the RChat Resources Board for Victoria. 
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=373754.0 
Deaths
 Date and place of death;
 name and surname;
occupation of the deceased;
 sex and age;
 cause of death,
 duration of illness,
 medical attendant by whom certified and when he last saw deceased;
 name and surname of parents (if known) including mother's maiden surname        signature, description and address of the person who gave the information;  signature of deputy registrar, date and where registered,
when and where buried,
 undertaker whom certified;
 name and religion of Minister, or names of witnesses of burial;
 place of birth of the deceased and how long he or she resided in the Australian  colonies or states (stating which),
name of spouse,
 place of marriage,
 age at marriage;
 names and ages of children of the deceased.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/ and
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369963.0 and scroll down at reply #1 to "Details on ALL Certificates for Victoria
·   http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html
·   http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html


You can also do a search on the Victoria B,D & M website for any members of the family you might have details for (within a certain range of years - to protect privacy)
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au

Good luck!

cheers
RW

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Re: Howard Arthur Butler/Catherine Redding
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 February 22 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Great to see this old post going again, with a wealth of new information. Hopefully original poster will reply. Good luck Brionne.
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Chapel Essex.McPherson,M Pherson MacPherson
Perthshire Scotland,Cork,Dublin,Drogheda Ireland.
Census information Crown Copy right from
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