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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #117 on: Monday 24 November 08 02:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue ...great to see you ...glad you are on board with this one LOL  ;D

jenny ...I will try Hodges in 1841 and see what we find .... are we just looking in Maidenstone?

deb

I am really hoping that the William bc 1776 in prison is yours ....wonder why they were in  prison ...?


Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #118 on: Monday 24 November 08 02:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The James Wm Hedges in 1841 in prison is actually Hodges ...his has def. got the 'O' and not an 'E' . he is also a victualler.

started looking for Hodges in 1841 ..... there are a LOT of them in Maidstone arrghhhhhhh

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #119 on: Monday 24 November 08 02:26 GMT (UK) »
Deb have another look at the records only check under Hodges I think there is another one. I remember my Cousin Peter Hedges went to Maidstone archives office recently and mentioned this to me and I'm sure there are 3 HEDGES/HODGES.

Jenny

What DOB/Year  do these Hodges have ....?? are they pre 1800?

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #120 on: Monday 24 November 08 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The James Wm Hedges in 1841 in prison is actually Hodges ...his has def. got the 'O' and not an 'E' . he is also a victualler.

started looking for Hodges in 1841 ..... there are a LOT of them in Maidstone arrghhhhhhh

deb

Hi Deb thanks for checking James Wm out for me if he is a Victualler and definitely HODGES then he is most likely not one of mine. I was just wondering if he was as they often put HEDGES down wrong. I am pretty sure the William and Joseph are mine though. I am beginning to wonder weather the parents to the brothers are a William and Susannah Fitzjoy that married  1st October 1844. Only problem is the marriage is late compared to the births of the brothers
PRINGLE.  Middlesex, London
WELLS. Norwich, Norfolk
HEDGES. Kent, Essex and Sussex
EATON. Staffordshire


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #121 on: Monday 24 November 08 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenny

Have been going through IGI and noticed that you didn't have this one ...

submitted , but confirms James Hedges = Eliza Jennings .... If we can prove that she is sister to Fanny who married your William...we may be closer still!!!!

Olivia Hedges d/o James Hedges and Eliza Jennings
1 FEB 1851   Cliffe Road, Frindsbury, Kent

Children of James Hedges and Eliza
Esther Christened 14 June 1835 Dartford Kent
Sophia Christening Not Known  born 1839 plumbsted Kent
Selina Christened 12 July 1840 Lidsing Kent
Golias/Elias Christening Not Known  Born 1942 Aylesford kent...... Janice's GGG Grandfather
Elijah Christening Not Known  born 1845 Cliffe Kent
*Alfred christened 1 Oct 1848 Hunton Kent
Olive Christening Not Known  born 1851 Cliffe Kent

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #122 on: Monday 24 November 08 13:13 GMT (UK) »
re Olive Hedges d/o James

found her marriage

Olive Hedges = William Spencer
dec q1871 
 Romford 
vol 4a p 215

Then in 1881
West Thurrock, Essex
Vans back of Main rd
William Spencer mar 31 basket maker b Colchester
OLIVIA wife 30 hawker bChatha,
Elias son 7 b  Upton Manor, Essex
William son 6 b Barking rd
Henry son 5 b Woodford
Eliza dau 3 Cambridge
Mary a 11 months b Writtle
James Young serv 14 b Sandy, Bedfordshire,
Christopher Bentridge  ser 22 Brentwood, Essex

No clues there unless James Young or Chris Bentridge are rellies ..



Jenny .... IGI confirms this with a submitted entry  :D

Olivia Hedges b 1 FEB 1851   Cliffe Road, Frindsbury
marries William Spencer on 2 OCT 1871   St Andrews, Romford, Essex

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #123 on: Monday 24 November 08 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenny and Deb,

                    Are we still searching for the 4 brothers ???

              If not have you got any further searching 1841 Deb :)

                        Sue
Norris  ( Somerset, Oxfordshire )
Evans  ( Berkshire )
Goodenough ( Berkshire )
Lloyd  ( Berkshire, Canada)
Dance ( Berkshire, Portsea, USA, )
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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #124 on: Monday 24 November 08 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Trying to find the connection between the Jennings girls.
Eliza bc 1816 Islington = James Hedges
Frances/fanny b 1814 Islington = William Hedges
Harriet b ?? = Elias Eastwood  (James Hedges was a witness)

Eliza Jennings  d/o Josh jennings and sarah
born 16 DEC 1815  
Chr 28 FEB 1816   Upper Street Independent, Islington

deb

hi Sue :)

We have not found some of them in 1851 ....I will go back and see what/who is missing ..
 
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Need Advice on connecting HEDGES brothers
« Reply #125 on: Monday 24 November 08 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Sue this is what we have in 1851 ...we need to find William  bc 1816 and Frances/Fanny b London

I see Job Hedges in 1851 transcribed as HODGES
Caravans
Long Lane Bexley

Job Hodges head mar residing in traveller's caravan/hawker b Berks Windsor
Rosa wife 32 b Sussex
William son 13 b Tonbridge wells Kent
Harriet 11 unemployed b kent Barning?
Job son 8 b Kent Braidhurst
James son 6 b Kent Cliffe
Jeremiah son 2 b Sussex

then I see Job jnr next door to James and Eliza hedges in 1871

1851
transcribed under Hedgis
St Mary, Kent
travelling house :) cart standing in Barns st
James Hedgis head mar 36 dealer in mats b Plumstead
Eliza wife 35
Esther 14
Sophia 12
Sebena 11
Golias 9
Elijah 5
Alfred 3
Olive 3 months
children b Kent

then in 1871
William Hedges b 1816 Under River, chair bottomer is with wife Frances, lodging with them is Alfred Hedges head mar 27b Kent Borstal with wife Eliza and children Emma John and Alfred. Next door is John 25 and Jane 26 Hedges.

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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