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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 23 October 08 17:07 BST (UK) »
Who was that on WDYTYA who was descended from Jesus Christ because he was connected to royalty?  At least they showed the way on there.  Anyway I thought we were all descended from Adam and Eve  ::)

I researched back to the 1500s with one family but found on Ancestry that one who died in 1851 had risen from the dead a obtained a new wife and family in America.

Bilge After 20 years searching I'm stuck in 1812 with one family.  You should be able to get back a bit further than 1850s.  Do ask for lookups if you are really stuck.

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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 23 October 08 17:10 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Sylviaann on Thursday 23 October 08 17:07 BST (UK)
Who was that on WDYTYA who was descended from Jesus Christ because he was connected to royalty?  At least they showed the way on there.  Anyway I thought we were all descended from Adam and Eve  ::)

Sylviaann

Wasn't it Matthew Pinsent?

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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 23 October 08 17:34 BST (UK) »
After exhaustively researching Roger de Busli (A Norman mate of Bill the Conk) and finding not only that his parentage was entirely unknown but also that his one son died very young and childless, I did find an American site claiming Roger as an ancestor. Not only that, but his sister (who didn't have the correct name for Roger's only sister) was born in Tickhill Castle in 1052 - 50 years before Tickhill Castle was built and, obviously, a little before the Norman Conquest.

I'm sure it's not only Americans who have wishful thinking, but in this case a bit of basic historical research would have helped.
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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 23 October 08 18:15 BST (UK) »
Sylviaann.  Thank You :)

I do intend to ask for help but I am trying to fit it in with other work I am doing. 8)

All this discovery is a little overwelming. :D
 
TBH I get diverted by other facts in history that are published on this forum. ;D

Oh why? Oh Why? could history at school have been so much fun! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #13 on: Friday 31 October 08 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Aulus and everone else that has helped me sort this huge jigsaw out thank you. 8)

Also thanks to the Forest of Dean Family History Web page I have a major break through in my link to the past. :D

http://www.coachhouse.free-online.co.uk/famtree/famf258.html

Just check out the ABELL line. ;D ;D
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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #14 on: Friday 31 October 08 11:43 GMT (UK) »
I think you have to look at how the information is shared to partly explain the situation.

The US is a big country, the world even bigger and Ancestry gives access to info for anyone with internet access regardless of their location
Most US researchers will use Ancestry as a research tool, Ancestry also happen to have the One World Tree. In theory a fantastic tool, taking thousands of separate gedcom files and combining them together, merging branches from one file into another to make a huge tree from all the submitted data.

The problem is that this is done automatically and the countless occurences of duplicate names and dates (often unsourced and with sketchy or incomplete places of birth) means the accuracy is rather questionable. Anyone can submit a tree and claim X is related to Y, it needn't be a legitimate tree and could even be a complete spoof addition, the danger is that somewhere amongst the millions of entries there will be a potential match to Messrs X and Y and the info is merged together.

Quantity over quality isn't a good basis for many things and particularly when family trees are concerned.

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Just ask yourself one question when viewing a tree online, which of the following is it?

Second Hand Internet Tree or (S)econd (H)and (I)nternet (T)ree


A farmer might argue that plenty of (S) (H) (I) (T) makes for a plentiful crop though  ::)

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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 November 08 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Falkyrn on Thursday 23 October 08 14:28 BST (UK)

I have seen one compiled by someone who was potentially a distant cousin which claimed to go back through to the Viking period and a certain Mr & Mrs Odin. (Fortunately I was able to confirm he was not related - and I don't mean Odin).

Hi Falkyrn: I once saw at a Family History Center in the time before records were online that someone had traced his/her ancestry back to Asgard, the home of the Norse gods. Falkyrn's post made me curious. I went to satisfy it and found:

The IGI lists Odin, born A.D. 600. There is no pedigree, which I presume confirms that he/she is self-created. The Pedigree Resource file on FamilySearch lists Odin twice. There is a discrepancy in his birth/self-creation year. Here it's 604, close enough that we can consider this the same person/god.

The Pedigree Resource File has several entries for a marriage between Mr. Odin and Mrs. Odin, in Norway, in A.D. 624.

The Pedigree Resource File on FamilySearch lists J. Christ 33 times, all apparently the same person, born 001 in Bethlehem, though one entry lists place of birth as Nazareth.

There is also a Jesus Christ listed in the U.S. Social Security Death Index, the closest there is to a national death index in the U.S.

Jesus CHRIST     
Birth Date:    17 Jul 1941
Death          3 Mar 2007
Social Security Number:     487-46-6914
State where number was issued:     Missouri
 
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code:    48224
Localities:     Detroit, Wayne, Michigan

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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 11:00 GMT (UK) »
I'm sure Odin's birth dates/self creation dates must be wrong - surely he must have been born long before that? Ah! those transcription errors are creeping into the IGI again  ;)

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Re: How Do They Do It In The U.S.
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 16:37 GMT (UK) »
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Ah! those transcription errors are creeping into the IGI again

It's hard enough reading some handwriting just think what those early transcribers had to cope with - Runes, Hieroglyphics etc etc.

In all seriousness though, histories like those mentioned bring medieval genealogy and by association all genealogy into disrepute. Some people are only interested in how far back they can get and tend to forget the odd thing or two like facts or evidence.
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