Look up request - Joseph Roscoe

[Exiled Mancunian]

Joseph Roscoe was born about 1800 or 1801 at Bispham, in the parish of Croston. Family legend always had it that he was a farmer. In 1822 he married Isabella Glover at All Saints Church, Wigan. He was given as 'of the parish of Croston' and she as 'of this parish'. The two witnesses are shown as James Leigh (no idea who he is) and John Glover (Isabellas father or brother?). Afterwards he must have returned to Bispham with his wife as their first two children were born there. So far so good.

However, the 1841 census shows him as living at Chapel Lane, Wigan (which is in St. Georges Ward, HO107/623) with his wife and 6 children aged from 15 to 10 months. This is in the centre of Wigan and not farming country. He is still in Wigan on the 1851 census, but by 1861 his wife is shown as a widow.

A chance discovery of the baptism of one of his children in 1825 at Ormskirk shows his abode at Lathom (not far from Bispham) and his occupation as shopkeeper. This might throw some light on his move to Wigan.

My two look up requests are as follows. Firstly if anybody has access to the 1841 census for Wigan could they please post a transcript for the entry for Joseph and family (HO107/623, E.D. 14, sch 39) as mine was done in pencil in the Leigh Records Office many years ago and has now faded in places.

Secondly, does anyone have access to Wigan directories anytime between 1833, the earliest he is known to have been in Wigan (though in theory it could have been anytime after 1825) and 1841. If so, could they please look to see if there is any reference to Joseph being a shopkeeper.

Any help, however small, will be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

Exiled Mancunian 

[judi2632]

here is the 1841 entry for you

Joseph Roscoe     40 ?K
Isabella Roscoe    35
John Roscoe    15...........  Piecer
Margaret Roscoe 15......... Piecer
Joseph Roscoe 10............ Piecer
James Roscoe    7
William Roscoe 5
Mary Roscoe    10 Mo

  The youngest children in the textile factories were usually employed as scavengers and piecers. Piecers had to lean over the spinning-machine to repair the broken threads.

Folio: 39; Page: 30; Line: 7;  Living on Chapel  Lane

[judi2632]

Forgot to say

All born in county Except Isabella

Regards Judi

[judi2632]

Hi

This site might be of help ref the directory

http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/

[Exiled Mancunian]

Hi Judi,
Many thanks for your replies and I apologise for not thanking you earlier. I read your replies when I got back yesterday but we had a power cut before I got chance to thank you.

Just one query. What does '?K' mean next to Josephs age>

Thanks once again for your help.

Chris

[judi2632]

Hi Chris

Sorry should have explained that 

His occupation is written in 2 letters first letter I cant read second looks to me like a K

often FK means Framework knitter but the letter doesn't look like an F to me so unsure someone else may be able to help  or offer an alternative.


Regards Judi 

[roscoebury]

I, too am interested in Joseph Roscoe, who was the son of John Roscoe of Bispham Green.  John Roscoe was a farmer in Bispham Green at the time of his death, (possibly the tenant farmer of Roscow’s Farm, Mawdesley?).  He died in June 1836, aged 74, and his will leaves one shilling and no more to his son William and his daughter Frances Monk, £15 to his son Joseph, £5 to his grandson Thomas (son of William) and the residue to his granddaughters (daughters of Frances Monk).  He was buried in Rufford.  A John Roscoe of Bispham, husbandman, married a Margaret Smith in Croston in 1789.  There is also a record of the burial of Anne wife of John Roscoe of Bispham, husbandman, earlier in 1789.  There is a record of the burial of Margaret Roscoe, aged 72, at Rufford in 1829.   My great great grandfather, James Roscoe, was the son of Joseph and described Joseph as a farmer on his marriage certificate.  However, there is no other evidence that he was a farmer.  I assume from your interest in the surname Edge that you too are interested in James, who died ca 1892. 

Joseph Roscoe's wife Isabella (nee Glover) was apparently born in Scotland.

[roscoebury]

Have you any information on George Roscoe, grandson of Joseph Roscoe?

Jane

[taonga1]

Hello!  I'm descended from Joseph Roscoe and Isabella Glover, and I've been working on finding Joseph's parents - now I can go searching for John and Anne/Margaret, thank you!  Have you found any further information?

I've found several earlier Roscoe family trees from a similar area, but can't find any which seem to tie into our one.

My line comes down from Joseph, to his son Joseph, to Edward who emigrated to New Zealand, to James, by his first wife, who was my grandfather. 

Miriam White