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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 January 10 05:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alan
I thought that I would let you know my latest finding on Thomas Webb..He must be your wife's GG/Grandfather.
He married Fanny Dimmick 21st June 1856. He was of full age Occ Labour. NO fathers name listed.
Fanny was 20, her father was William Dimmick and they were both living at Chapel Street ?. The witnesses were William Longman & Elizabeth Bull. I have got the Cert. I have also found them on 1841/51 Census.
1851 Longdown
Joseph Rodgers head unm 64 Farmer 15 acres b Eling
Elizabeth Leach housekeeper widow 81? b Beaulieu
Thomas Webb Illegitimate son 16 farm Lab b do
Eliza Webb Illegitmate daug 14 scholar b do.

1841 includes another daug Emma age 7.
I still believe that he is connected to my Webb's but have yet to prove it. I'll keep digging
I hope that you are managing the snowy conditions, we are just the opposite, very hot with threats of bush fires.
best regards for the New Year.

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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 10 January 10 05:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alan

1891 Census.
Thomas Webb  Head  married 54  b 1837 Farmer born Eling
Fanny Webb Wife Married age 52 b 1839 born Eling
Edward Webb Son  Single 26 b 1865 Ag Lab born Eling
Oliver W Webb son Single 20 b 1871 Ag Lab born Eling.
Living: Highway, Eling Marchwood, New Forest Hampshire.

1911 Census
Thomas Webb  head 75 b 1836 Farmer born Colbury
Fanny Webb Wife married 54 yrs age 74 b 1837 born Redbridge
Edward Charles son Single 47 b 1846 working on farm born Colbury
Longman Sarah .Sister in law widow age 81 b 1830 born Totton
Living at Colbury Farm Colbury near Totton.

OLIVER WALTER WEBB  Married a Sarah? they had 4 sons & 1 daug. they were living at Pound Lane Colbury on 1911 Census.

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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 January 10 20:47 GMT (UK) »
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Hi Marlene,
I tried sending you a reply last week but my computer decided it wasn't having any of it and threw it out, so I will try again.

 It seems that most of the Colbury/Longdown area was populated by Webb's, my wifes father, Edwin Webb, was b 1909 and his father was Walter Webb, b 1890ish which would have made him very young  when Edwin was born! his father was Allen J Webb, but in the 1891 census there was a son Allen W Webb 9mo,  did the "W" stand for Walter?  they lived at School House, Longdown.

In the 1881 census, Allen J, was living at Londown with wife Emma and at the same address was a Mary Webb and son Samuel, both Allen J (24) and Mary (67) were both classed as Head!

In the 1871 census, Mary was a 'Widow' living with son Samuel and 7 other Webb's at 'Staplewood Farm' Eling.

In 1861, Allen J (4) was living at Longdown, with father, Thomas Webb,  mother, Fanny and brother, James.

Also in 1861, Mary was living at Londown with husband Henry and son Samuel and two daughters, Ann and Betsy.

In 1851, Mary was living in Longdown with husband Henry and 12 children including 2 illegitimate.

In 1841, Mary and Henry are at Longdown with 6 other Webb's, 5 presumably thier children.

 Lots of the names of the children appear in most of the census's and it does seem as though they are all related in some way or other.    I have traced a lot through   www.thegenealogist.co.uk will keep on searching though to verify.
All snow  gone here in Holbury,

Alan
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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #12 on: Friday 22 January 10 11:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alan
Just a note to thank you for your latest posting, I'm still trying to digest all the Census recordings. Glad that the snow has cleared from Holbury, we have had temperatures of 42C this week, not very nice...I would much prefer the snow. My e-mail address is *if you would like to use it in future

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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 13 February 10 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Marlene

Hi there - I think I can help you here

I have the death certificate of Elizabeth Webb - died 1839 in Longdown, Elizabeth Leach mother, present at death.   Elizabeth Webb widow married John Leech in 1834.

Thomas Webb, illegitimate son  was bap 20.4.1835 to Joseph Roger and Elizabeth Webb

Eliza Webb illegitimate daughter was bap 12.4.1837 to the above, both baptised at Eling

I think Elizabeth Webb was the daughter of Robert Webb and Elizabeth Rawlings and sister to Henry Rawlins Webb born 1804  and Rose Webb born 1813.

So your instinct about a connection with your family tree is correct. So are Elizabeth Rawlings and Elizabeth Leech one of the same ?

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L.


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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 February 10 04:10 GMT (UK) »
Lucy. Thank you so much for your reply. I guess you're saying that it was the Elizabeth Webb who died in 1839 widowed mother who married John Leach and that Thomas, Eliza & Emma b1834 ( 1841 Census) were Elizabeth Webb &  Joseph Rodgers children. Have I understood it correctly?.  My connection with the Robert Webb / Elizabeth Rawlings is daughter Rosa b 1813 who married William Webb My GGGrandparents. May I ask what your interest is in the Webb's. Do you have any suggestions of how we confirm that your suspicions are correct. I haven't found Henry's birth details yet but have two other siblings, Mary 1807.Sarah 1809.
Regards Marlene
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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 14 February 10 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Marlene

I can see from your posts that we are cousins.

Jack Webb b1867, my great grandfather, was brother to Charles Henry b.1863, your grandfather. So we share a few William Webbs in common. However I have not got back any further than you on our earliest William born 1771 in Fawley.

Yes Elizabeth Webb and Joseph Rogers had Thomas, Eliza and Emma. Elizabeth Leach her mother died of influenza 1.4.1852 aged 82 in Twigs Lane Longdown, widow of John Leach.

If you look at the 1851 Census for Longdown, Elizabeth  is living next to Nohannah Moore and near to Henry Webb, Eliza Meacher, Amelia Winter and Rose Webb. All likely siblings and possibly her children. Robert Webb their father died in 1830 in Eling.  So Elizabeth then went on to marry John Leach 4 years later.

The 1851 Census indicates that Elizabeth was born in Beaulieu around 1770. Now we have a problem, everything did slot nicely into place but Elizabeth Rawlings was born in 1786 in Fawley to Edward Rawlins and Elizabeth Osey.

That would mean when Elizabeth married John Leach in 1834 she was 64 and he was 50, this does not ring true. I think she added on 15 years because it would have been indecent to live with Joseph who was the same age as her but the father of her grandchildren. I may be wrong.

See your Henry Webb thread.

L.

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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 June 14 23:38 BST (UK) »
Hello

I have just come across this site and notice you are tracing the Webbs.  My late Mother-in-Law Mary was the maternal Grand daughter of Charles and Edith Webb. Her parents were Harry Frank Browning and Norah Webb. She was born 1924 and grew up in Burley, Hampshire. I think this is the same line as you are talking about.  i would be very interested in getting more history. I knwo she has mentioned a relative who went to Australia.

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Re: Staplewood farm longdown
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 June 14 10:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Lorraine.

Yes I'm part of the Webb family who moved to Australia. My Father was Albert Webb, Norah's brother. Unfortunately I'm unable to send you a personal message until you've made three posting on the Forum.
But feel free to ask me some general family history questions.

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