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War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« on: Sunday 19 October 08 16:03 BST (UK) »
Osmond Kidwell died 5th May 1916 at Ypres ... he was in the CEF 7th Battalion.

I am trying to find out what he was doing when he died, and where ... it was a stray shell which killed him and three other Canadians.

Is there still in existance a day to day war diary, say for that first week in May, leading up to his death ?

If so, can anyone tell me how I can see a copy of it please ?

Osmond was my uncle .. mothers brother.

If this should be on the WW1 board, please tell me !
Glam: Ace, Jenkins, Matthews, Oldham, Sanders, Thomas, Williams
Carms: David, Oldham, William
Devon & Liverpool: Kidwell
Devon: Luttrell, Slowly, Blackmore, Symons, Ley, Burman
Westmoreland: Parkin, Harrison, Atkinson

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Re: War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 October 08 16:36 BST (UK) »


KIDWELL, OSMOND
Initials - O
Nationality - Canadian
Rank - Private
Regiment/Service - Canadian Infantry (British Columbia Regiment)
Unit Text - 7th Bn.
Age - 21
Date of Death - 05/05/1916
Service No - 429060
Additional information - Native of Colwich, Stafford. Went to Canada, 1910. Enlisted, Feb., 1915. Son of Mary Jane Kidwell, of 5, Victoria Rd., Stafford, England, and the late William Henry Kidwell.
Casualty Type - Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference - II. D. 2.
Cemetery - CHESTER FARM CEMETERY

7th Battalion (First British Columbia Regiment) was made up of these regiments

6th Regiment (The Duke of Connaught's Own Rifles)
11th Regiment (Irish Fusiliers of Canada)
88th Regiment (Victoria Fusiliers)
102nd Regiment (Rocky Mountain Rangers)
104th Regiment (Westminster Fusiliers of Canada)

And looking at his attestation papers ... it looks like he was with the 104th Regiment ( I believe it was militia before the war ! ) .... so you need to look for the war diaries of that regiment !

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I'll keep looking !

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Re: War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 October 08 16:47 BST (UK) »
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Re: War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 October 08 16:52 BST (UK) »
Id sent a PM in reply to your other thread,then found this :P

Great catch on the war diaries liverpool annie :)
Lancs:Barrow,Boyer,Carr,Leete,Morris,Phillips,Sabine,Thickett.
West Midlands:Barnett,Blackwood,Falconer
Ireland: Hearn,Morris
USA :Boyer,Thickett


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Re: War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 October 08 17:26 BST (UK) »


The Canadian Virtual War Memorial site doesn't seem to be working right now ... probably because it's the weekend and everybody is using it  ::) .... but there is a post for your Osmond here !

http://www.rootschat.com/links/04k4/

Are you a relation too Tabbitha ?

Heres a picture of Chester Farm and Osmond is also mentioned here !

http://www.inmemories.com/Cemeteries/chesterfarm.htm



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Re: War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 October 08 17:52 BST (UK) »
 Thank you so much for your very helpful reply to my latest request.  The info I had that there was'nt a battle going on, & that it was a stray shell which caught four men.  The theory being that the other men had time to bury all 4 men & put up their details on individual crosses.  My friend Lydart will post the photo that was sent to my grandmother at the time. This is the second time that a family rumour has been shot down by actual records. 
It was Lydart who put up the information for me about Osmond on the Virtual War Memorial Site.
Glam: Ace, Jenkins, Matthews, Oldham, Sanders, Thomas, Williams
Carms: David, Oldham, William
Devon & Liverpool: Kidwell
Devon: Luttrell, Slowly, Blackmore, Symons, Ley, Burman
Westmoreland: Parkin, Harrison, Atkinson

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Re: War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 October 08 18:02 BST (UK) »
Nope,no relation, just like to help if/when I can :)

I know what its like trying to track facts down about family ancestors hehe.
Lancs:Barrow,Boyer,Carr,Leete,Morris,Phillips,Sabine,Thickett.
West Midlands:Barnett,Blackwood,Falconer
Ireland: Hearn,Morris
USA :Boyer,Thickett

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Re: War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 October 08 18:42 BST (UK) »
Here's the picture Pyewacket wanted me to post for her ... its of Osmonds grave plus three others ...

Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

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Re: War diary for 7th Battalion CEF.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 October 08 18:55 BST (UK) »


Those old photos always seem so much more poignant somehow don't they ?? :-\ :-\

Thanks Lydart ! ... maybe we should look up the other soldiers too .... they've been pals together there for so long !

Annie  :)
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