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Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« on: Sunday 19 October 08 08:49 BST (UK) »
Could someone help me with this guy who appears in the "Going to America" list on Ancestry born Liverpool 1867. I would appreciate news of any family members accompanying him too. Thanks. 
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Re: Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 October 08 09:56 BST (UK) »
To start with, there is a tree on Ancestry with him in it. I don't know if it's your tree or not.

If I have found the right passenger record, it is Samuel C O Foreman aboard the Arizona reaching NY on 17 april 1893. He is 26, a mason. This might not be the right guy, or it could be filled out wrong, but if I am reading it right, it says he is a citizen of the US but born in England, and he is heading to Cleveland. There's a starting point. Let me see if I can find him in the 1900 census.

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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA

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Re: Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 October 08 10:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the quick reply. Yes it is my tree on there. He was a stonemason so it must be him. My problem has been that they drop the last surname in UK so I dont know what they called themselves in the States. Are there any more Owen Foremans on the same ship?
thanks again
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Re: Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 October 08 10:15 BST (UK) »
To see N.Y. passenger lists (1892-1924) yourself go to www.ellisisland.org (have to register but site is free).
For earlier N.Y. passenger lists see www.castlegarden.org (free, no need to register)
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Re: Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 October 08 10:21 BST (UK) »
I have a Samuel C Foreman in the 1920 and 1930 census in Cleveland, Ohio. In 1920, he is a retail salesman at a gas station. Doesn't match the 1893 passenger record, but he could have reinvented himself by that point. In 1930 he has no occupation. He is 52 in 1920, says he came over in 1885 and was naturalized in 1891. He has a wife, Dorothy, who is German and a son John who is 20 and born in Ohio.

In 1930, the only changes are that Samuel is retired and John is married to Goldie K, who is 36. It says they got married when John was 19 and Goldie 25. It must have been right after the 1920 census. Samuel also owns his home, worth $12,500, and has a radio.

Ok, now I think I have them in 1910 Ohio in Cleveland. With Samuel, 42, is wife Dorothy, 34, born Germany, stepdaughter Margaret Ions, 13, born Ohio, stepson John, 10, born Ohio, mother-in-law Anna Labryk, 55, born Austria, and one non-relative.

With this, I was able to find them in the 1910 census. In the household are:

Samuel Foreman, 42, married 3 years, 2nd marriage, born Engl, owns grocery store
Dorothy, 34, 2nd marriage, born Germany,
Margaret Jons, stepdaughter, 13, born Ohio, father engl, mother Germany
John Jons, stepson, 10, born Ohio, father Engl, mother Germany.

I have also found Dorothy in the 1900 in Cleveland with her first husband, Benjamin, and Margaret and John. Benjamin was born in England.

It looks like the John in the 1920 and 1930 census is John Jons/Ions, from Dorothy's first marriage. And I am not having much luck finding Samuel in the 1900 census.

Boy, so I hope this is your guy.  ;D

Kath
Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA

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Re: Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 October 08 10:23 BST (UK) »
If they drop the surname, should I be look for Samuel Owen?
Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA

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Re: Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 October 08 10:31 BST (UK) »
I have now found the record on Ellis Island thanks. Last residence should be Garston not Farston. Where do you see the Cleveland reference. I do know that there are Owen family there who are related who create a large tool and die company.
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Re: Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 October 08 10:54 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Samuel Charles Owen Foreman
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 October 08 15:21 BST (UK) »
Name: Foreman, Samuel C.
Date: Jun 2 1940
Source: Source unknown;  Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #026.
Notes: Foreman: Samuel C., residence, 17905 Harland ave.; beloved husband of Dorothy (nee Immke), step-father of Mrs. Margaret Larkin and John Ions, brother of Percy Foreman and Minnie Miles. Friends may call at Albert E. Ziehm, Inc., Funeral Home, 7618 Superior ave., where services will be held Monday, June 3, at 2 p.

Name: Foreman, Percy
Date: Jul 20 1950
Source: Cleveland Press;  Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #026.
Notes: Foreman, Percy, beloved husband of the late Jane, father of Mrs. Minnie Sansone and John Robert of Kenmore, N. Y., brother of Mary Ann Miles and the late Charles, grandfather of John and Phillip Foreman, Leslie and James Sansone, Tuesday a. m. Friends may call at the Charles A. Mandley Funeral Home, 15480 Triskett Rd. at Lorain Ave., where services will be held Friday, July 21, 2 p. m.
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