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Offline ann johnston

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bagley family graves and 1851 census
« on: Tuesday 01 February 05 18:47 GMT (UK) »
 :)i am desperate to trace any grave records for the following family
they seem to be a very large family which seemed to stay in the broseley/madeley area of shropshire from the info i have found

the info i have is as follows

edward bagley married elizabeth maiden 1840
children
henry joseph
george
richard
alfred
elizabeth
frederick
annie
edward and james

these all seem to have been christened in st leonards madeley from 1860 - 1869

james then got married to a mary surname at this point unknown
and they had children

ernest levi (this being my grandad) born 1890
florrie born 1894
james alfred born 1873
harry born 1887
elizabeth born 1885
ernest edwin born 1870 died 1872
charles born 1880
ethel born 1880
jane born 1878
and william born 1876 all born in the broseley district

as i am the only living member from this side i have got no family members to ask my intentions are once i gather enough information is to visit broseley and madeley and iron bridge and hopefully visit the churches and grave yards
i am also curious in the propertys they lived in are still around up north where i am from they would have been demolished as its a city but i was wondering if that was the case in broseley the addresses are 9 barratt hill broseley and 71 cape court broseley
i do appreciate anyones help even on marriages or deaths etc on all the above

thanks

ann

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Re: bagley family graves and 1851 census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ann,

I have posted messages on your other threads.

Just looking through the 1871 census to find their address before trawling through 1851.
details from 1871 Broseley census:

Speeds Lane Broseley:

Head Elizabeth Bagley Widow age 49 born Broseley
Son George Bagley Unmarried age 26 profession: Colour Maker, Encoustic in Tile Works born Broseley
Son Alfred Bagley Unmarried age 24 profession: Coal Miner born Broseley
son Frederick Bagley Unmarried age 16 profession: Draughtsman, Encoustic at Tile works born Broseley
Son Henry Bagley age 11 Scholar born Broseley
son Richard Bagley age 8 Scholar born Broseley


In Simpson's Lane:
Head James Bagley Married age 21 profession Encoustic Tile Maker born Broseley
Wife Mary A Bagley age 19 profession Home Duties born Broseley
son Ernest E Bagley age 5mths born Broseley
Names: Troth, Elcock, Cadwallader, Brady
Areas: Shropshire, Stafford, Worcestershire Co.Longford, Lanark

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Re: bagley family graves and 1851 census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 12:56 GMT (UK) »
If the marriage I gave you for from the free BMD website for James is yours then it seems Likely that Mary A was a Pountney, there are quite a lt of Pountneys in Broseley in 1871
Names: Troth, Elcock, Cadwallader, Brady
Areas: Shropshire, Stafford, Worcestershire Co.Longford, Lanark

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Re: bagley family graves and 1851 census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 13:04 GMT (UK) »
Just looking through the images for 1851 which include Speeds Lane and Simpson's Lane.
will post as soon as I find them

Don't know if this is one of yours so I'll post it incase:

Broseley Wood I think:
Living with the Davies family
Mary Bagley Servant Unmarried age 16 profession House Servant born Broseley
Head of house is Samuel Davies age 39 a Master Butcher born Broseley

High St. Broseley:
Living with Pugh Family:
Martha Bagley Serv. Unmarried age 21 profession Home servant born Broseley
Head of House is Thomas Pugh married age 34 profession China Painter born Broseley
Names: Troth, Elcock, Cadwallader, Brady
Areas: Shropshire, Stafford, Worcestershire Co.Longford, Lanark


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Re: bagley family graves and 1851 census
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 13:18 GMT (UK) »
hi

thank you very much you have been ever so helpful
i look forward to your reply on the 1851 census

thank you soooooo much


ann

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Re: bagley family graves and 1851 census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 14:50 GMT (UK) »
I just wanted to check something before I posted this:

I have found your family in 1851 but they are down as Bagnall
I have cross referenced with 1871 and the Edwin which I will list below is a Bagley in 1871 There are no other families that match so I'm sure they are yours.
Living Delphside Broseley:
Head Edward Bagnall married age 30 profession coal Miner born Broseley
Wife Elizabeth Bagnall age 29 profession Homekeeper born Broseley
Son Edwin Bagnall age 10 at Home born Broseley
son Jonas Bagnall age 8 at Home born Broseley
son George Bagnall age 6 scholar born Broseley
son Alfred Bagnall age 4 at Home born Broseley
son James Bagnall age 1 at Home born Broseley

in 1871:
Quarry Road Broseley:
Head Edwin Bagley Married age  30 profession Coal Miner born Broseley
Wife Eliza Bagley age 26 born Broseley
son Henry Bagley age 1 born Broseley

there are no Edwin Bagnalls born Broseley or in Broseley in 1871

1871 in Broseley not sure of street:
Jonas Bagnell? (hard to read) married age 28 profession salon(? Again hard to read) born Broseley
Wife Elizabeth age 26 Profession Boat Builder born Broseley
Daughter Mary Jane age 6mths born Broseley

In 1881 Jonas turns into a Bagley!
Living Lower Church St next to Foundry Lane Broseley:
Head Jonas Bagley Widower age 38 profession Coal Miner born Broseley
Daughter Mary J age  11 Scholar born Broseley
Lodger William Smout Married age 42 profession Waggoner born Benthall
Lodger Martha Smout Married age 42 born Broseley

so it looks like you need to follow up Bagnalls and Bagleys.
Names: Troth, Elcock, Cadwallader, Brady
Areas: Shropshire, Stafford, Worcestershire Co.Longford, Lanark

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Re: bagley family graves and 1851 census
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Here's another possible family member 1851 census for Broseley:
Can't read the address but it's next to Workhouse Road and only a few households away from your Bagnalls at Delphside

Living with Head Ann Roden Widow age 55 Dress Maker born Broseley
Lodger Ernie Bagnall unmarried age 25 Bricklayer born Broseley

A few pages away at can't read something  Willey Road
Head Elizabeth Price Widow age 43 Tollgate Keeper born Broseley
Sister Ann Bagnall Unmarried age 20 or 29 proberly 29 (shes at the bottom of the page so the writing joins the totals) Servant born Broseley
Daughter (I Think) Ellen Bagnall Unmarried age 18 Servant born Broseley
Daughter Catherine Price unmarried age 14 Servant born Broseley
Son Edward Price Unmarried age 11 Scholar born Broseley
Daughter Eliza Price age 7 Scholar born Broseley
Names: Troth, Elcock, Cadwallader, Brady
Areas: Shropshire, Stafford, Worcestershire Co.Longford, Lanark

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Re: bagley family graves and 1851 census
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 February 05 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Just looking at a Maiden Family in the 1851 Broseley Census do you want the details?
Names: Troth, Elcock, Cadwallader, Brady
Areas: Shropshire, Stafford, Worcestershire Co.Longford, Lanark

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Re: bagley family graves and 1851 census
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 February 05 12:56 GMT (UK) »
wow  :D
fantastic info yes please to the maiden family
sorry to be a nuisance have you got the house numbers on speeds lane and simpson  lane
just i do intend to visit broseley very soon and i am hoping to visit the streets etc if the houses are still standing

thank you very very much you are sooo helpful

ann