WALLACE Family

[TheWhuttle]

Hi Charlotte,

Here's my donation to the WALLACE collection ...

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Looks like your folks chose to get married in a trendy Somerset spa town:

The Bristol Mercury

Saturday, May 6, 1876; Issue 4492.
MARRIAGES

WALLACE - VACHELL
May 2, at Charlcombe Church, Bath,
by the Rev. Edward MARKBY,
assisted by the Rev. Thackeray STUBBS,
Thomas WALLACE, M.D., of Cardiff,
to Margaret Jane,
eldest daughter of the late C.R.VACHELL, M.D., of Cardiff.

[N.B. No copy announcement was made in Belfast's "News-Letter" or in Dublin's "Freeman's Journal" that year.]


Perhaps they went there to suss out the potential for future high-value "doctoring" business?!  More likely, they were in town for the season, maybe helping Margaret's mother, a widow of 12 years by then, to "take the waters".

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Some useful GRO references (from www.freebmd.org.uk) are:

Deaths Q/E Mar 1859
  VACHELL   Charles                        Cardiff  11a 184   
[Grandfather?]

Deaths Q/E Jun 1865
  VACHELL   Charles Redwood       Cardiff  11a 171
[Father.]

Marriages Q/E Jun 1876
  VACHELL   Margaret Jane            Bath       5c 995
  WALLACE  Thomas                       Bath       5c 995

Births Q/E Jun 1877
  WALLACE Charles Redwood V     Cardiff  11a 289
[1st child.  Named after maternal grandfather ...]

Births Q/E Jun 1891
  WALLACE Christobel Jane            Cardiff  11a 306
[Last child.]

There seems to have been quite a sizeable WALLACE clan in Cardiff.

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The only sensible candidate "Cardiff" death record is:

Deaths Q/E Jun 1924
  WALLACE Thomas H    64            Cardiff  11a 372

However, this person would have been born in 1859/60.
So can't be your one (b.1849).


Casting the net wider, allowing 5 years of leeway on estimated year of birth, throws up the following candidates:

eYOB First Names Age Q/E District Vol  Page
       
1844 Thomas 62 Mar-1906 St. Olave 1d  118
1844 Thomas 70 Mar-1914 Wakefield 9c  41
1844 Thomas W 77 Mar-1921 Carlisle 10b  799
1844 Thomas 80 Jun-1924 Reigate 2a  236
1844 Thomas 83 Mar-1927 Kensington 1a  291
       
1845 Thomas 60 Dec-1905 Oldham 8d  415
1845 Thomas 65 Sep-1910 Worcester 6c  119
1845 Thomas 72 Dec-1917 Whitehaven 10b  745
1845 Thomas 78 Dec-1923 Southwark 1d  101
1845 Thomas 79 Mar-1924 Lanchester 10a  550
       
1847 Thomas 70 Mar-1917 Edmonton 3a  936
1847 Thomas R 71 Sep-1918 Darlington 10a  54
1847 Thomas 71 Dec-1918 Burnley 8e  260
       
1848 Thomas S D 66 Dec-1914 Marylebone 1a  641
1848 Thomas 76 Dec-1924 W.Derby 8b  426
1848 Thomas G 81 Jun-1929 Bedwellty 11a  81
       
1849 Thomas 68 Jun-1917 Lanchester 10a  378
1849 Thomas 70 Jun-1919 Prestwich 8d  246
       
1850 Thomas 53 Jun-1903 Gloucester 6a  177
1850 Thomas 64 Dec-1914 Thakeham 2b  428
1850 Thomas 65 Mar-1915 Newcastle T. 10b  48
1850 Thomas 71 Dec-1921 Bolton 8c  464
       
1851 Thomas 47 Dec-1898 Rochdale 8e  35
       
1852 Thomas 60 Mar-1912 Wrexham 11b  420
1852 Thomas 63 Dec-1915 Carlisle 10b  690
1852 Thomas 64 Jun-1916 Sunderland 10a  865
1852 Thomas G 67 Mar-1919 Stockport 8a  124
       
1853 Thomas 40 Sep-1893 West Derby 8b  264
1853 Thomas 54 Jun-1907 Preston 8e  390
1853 Thomas 58 Mar-1911 Birmingham 6d  40
1853 Thomas 61 Jun-1914 Newcastle T. 10b  5_
1853 Thomas 62 Sep-1915 Godstone 2a  240
1853 Thomas H 76 Dec-1929 S.Shields 10a  730
       
1854 Thomas Robert 54 Sep-1908 Winchester 2c  64
1854 Thomas 61 Mar-1915 Newcastle T. 10b  257
1854 Thomas 62 Jun-1916 Tynemouth 10b  297
1854 Thomas 68 Mar-1922 Penrith 10b  882


That one in the Bedwelty registration district looks worth a punt.
[It lies about 15 miles North & East of Cardiff, in the foothills of the Black Mountains.
 Maybe Thomas retired to a small village or cottage.]

If it is him, then he lived to a ripe old age.
[Quite an achievement for someone born in the famished / epidemic-ravaged Ireland of 1849.]

N.B. The FreeBMD databases are still far from being complete, but growing by th day - always worth a regular re-visit.

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Some other news:

The Bristol Mercury

Saturday, June 3, 1865; Issue 3922.
DEATHS
May 26, at Charles-street, Cardiff,
Charles Redwood VACHELL, Esq., M.D.

Saturday, December 7, 1839; Issue 2596.
INQUEST
[in to sudden death of Mary MABBETT of Thornbury.
 Charles Redwood VACHELL was house-surgeon at the Institution in Park-street.]

Saturday, November 29, 1834; Issue 2336.
APOTHECARIES' HALL - Names of gentlemen to whom the Court of Examiners granted Certificates of Qalification on Thursday last:
 ... Charles Redwood VACHELL of Cardiff; ...

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Ya'll keep trawling and hauling there now.
Pip pip!

Capt. Jock

[TheWhuttle]

SNIPPETS ON THE SURNAME

The WALLACE name is well known in Galway, Cork, Limerick and Dublin.
However, it is most common in Ulster, especially counties Antrim, Down and Derry.
It can be of Norman, English or Scottish origin.

The name was common in medieval Ireland as le Waleis, 'the Welshman'.
Known in England as the surname WALLIS, meaning 'Welshman' or 'Celt'.

It first appears in 12thC Scotland as Richard WALLACE (latin: WALLENSIS), who came North from Shropshire in the service of Walter FITZALAN, Scottish progenitor of the STEWARTs.

Sir William WALLACE was the descendant of a Strathclyde Briton, such people being referred to by the latin name WALLENSIS in Scotland. The name appears in 12thC records for Ayrshire and Renfrewshire.  Others were followers of the Earls of Crawford, chiefs of Clan LINDSAY.
[CJ: Scotland's premier baron.]

In mid-19thC Antrim the name was found in twelve out of the fourteen baronies and was the most common name in the barony of Lower Toome.
In Co. Down it was most common on the Ards peninsula, between Newtownards and Grey Abbey.

Sir Richard WALLACE 1818-90, of uncertain parentage, fell heir to the CONWAY estates near Lisburn in 1870 when the 4th Marquis of Hertford (who was either his father or half-brother) died.  This included the finest art collection in private hands in the world.

[CJ: Housed in the much-extended Manchester House, Manchester Square, London.  When he died, his wife (whose surname he had adopted) donated it all to the nation, the famous "WALLACE Collection".  It contains only two items of "Irish" interest, both silver - CONWAY's "Orange Order" badge and an ancient prayer bell.]

Ref: The Book of Ulster Surnames by Robert BELL  ISBN 0-85640-405-5

Capt. Jock [CJ]

[fmni]

"Sir Richard WALLACE 1818-90, of uncertain parentage, fell heir to the CONWAY estates near Lisburn in 1870 when the 4th Marquis of Hertford (who was either his father or half-brother) died.  This included the finest art collection in private hands in the world."


This was the Wallace connection I was going to refer to as well. Extremely wealthy and still today in Lisburn there are a number of buildings and areas named after him, and indeed the house he inherited still exists and is part of a fresh debate in the city as to whether to move the museum to this building -also in the city we have Wallace Park, the Wallace Fountain and indeed my old school which adopted the name Wallace after he made a generous donation towards what was then 'Lisburn Intermediate School' in the late 1800s.

I would imagine your 'Wallace' had very wealthy connections, if not substantial wealth himself.

[RosemaryJoan]

I agree with you fmni.  My Wallace connections were all very ordinary farmers who would never have dreamed of becoming doctors in those days.  RosemaryJoan

[Newgent_for_life]

Not sure how to contact the University someone else maybe able to help.

Most places are happy to give info these days, you can only ask

Helena

QUB were very helpful with my searches.  The contacts;
  hcarvalho {--at--} qub.ac.uk   and smcneill {--at--} yahoo.co.uk  helped me and sent me copies of papers etc.

   Yours etc.,   Newgent.


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[helenar]

Charlotte

This might be a relative which you may already have, just in case you dont

Charles T Vachell b1849 General Practitioner M.D.London Etc  born Cardiff Glamorganshire Wales with wife Winifred and daughter Eleanor living at 51 Crockherbtown, Cardiff St John with 3 servants. 1881 census

Helena

[Burrow Digger]

My WALLACE connection is actually WALLS from Orkney in Scotland.
Orkney used to be under Norse control (from Norway) and Walls is a variation of an old NORSE name and was later anglicised to Wallace

[Lintonbiographer]

cairns88 Doctor Wallace had a daughter called Margaret Gertrude Wallace. She married Edward Maples Linton and her eldest son John Wallace Linton won the Victoria Cross in 1943.The marriage was dissolved in 1933 and she married a solicitor from Barnstaple called Richard Balsdon. She died in 1962

[Malcolm33]

SNIPPETS ON THE SURNAME

The WALLACE name is well known in Galway, Cork, Limerick and Dublin.
However, it is most common in Ulster, especially counties Antrim, Down and Derry.
It can be of Norman, English or Scottish origin.

The name was common in medieval Ireland as le Waleis, 'the Welshman'.
Known in England as the surname WALLIS, meaning 'Welshman' or 'Celt'.

     Wales is an Anglo Saxon defining name meaning 'Foreigner'.     They also used it for the Walloons of Belgium and Wallachia in Eastern Europe.