2nd Bn Munster Fusiliers during WW1

[belgianirish]

Hi Mitch
My Grandfather served in the Royal Munster Fusiliers in 1914 in France and his name was Sergeant Thomas Hyde DCM, MM.  I would be grateful if you knew anything about him could you please let me know.

Thank you
john3048

Thomas Hyde

"at 6.30am on the 28th (December 1917) the Battalion moved to Dublin Corner and at 10am a report was received from Serg Hyde in charge if No 13 Platoon that he had rushed an enemy party and taken 1 officer and 11 other ranks prisoners and these he sent back with an escort of 1 soldier, he then repulsed a counter-attack and withdrew bringing in him with his 2 wounded"

extract from History of the Royal Munster Fusiliers 1861 - 1922

[clarah]

Hi, I have been desperately trying to find out about my great grandfather, from Dublin who joined RMF in Limerick possibly when he was 14. I know that he was a seargent by 1917 but do not know his number. His name is quite a common one Thomas Murphy, he was also a bandsman. He received a pension for a number of years after the war.
Apart from going to research in Kew, are there any research facilities in Limerick. I am mum to 4 small children and my research offline and away from home is limited.
Where can I get my hands on book quoted "history of RMF ..."?
Any help in the right direction would be fantastic. Thank you.
Clara

[belgianirish]

History of the Royal Munster Fusiliers  Naval & Military Press 184734982X can be brought via Amazon - but is not cheap - presently £26.60

However, provides a detailed account of where its various battalions were throughout the war - lists all gallantry medal recipients and fatalities - while my grandfather survived, by comparing his service record and injuries I could work out where he was at various times during the conflict

The two Thomas Murphys listed on the national archive website in the Munsters don't seem to match the details you provide

[clarah]

I looked him up on nat archives and found 10 Thomas Murphy's on medal cards. Only one was listed as a seargent. They have reg no's. Where could I go next to see if any of these are my ggrandfather?

[lexthecat]

Hi Mitch

Just noticed your posting on the Topic Summary.  My husbands uncle served with the RMF, his name was John Cripps, he was killed in 1916, no grave, but his name is on the Thiepval memorial.  We do not have any medals, I'm afraid, but somewhere we have a book with his poetry written at the front which was published.  You're welcome to a copy.
All the best with your PhD  Lex

[belgianirish]

clarah

I see the medal records but there are no corresponding  service or pension records listed that match - sorry can't suggest where you go next

[corisande]

clarah

It appears that the only MIC is for Thomas Murphy 3974 RMF, which you have found. All you can really say is that is a better than evens chance, with the info you havve, that this is him. A Medal Card could be missing or misfiled for example, or peraps he was a Corporal, but made oiur he was a sergent, or was a temp sergeasnt, and that is not on MIC.

This is the index card for the actual medal roll. which should give you a few more details like the battalion he was in.

You can get that by wending your way online through the Nat Arc (Kew) site - their navigation is criminally bad, but if yo go to their shop and find where you can get a quote online, for under 10€ you can get the medal roll entry with the details you have.

You then want to either go to Amazon.com or Abe books or you local library and get a book on whatever battalion f the Munsters he was in, to see where he served.

Also if you are lucky you can get to download a batch of War Diaries. That you find on the online section of Nat Arch. I got a years worth of R Dublin Fusiliers (with 4 other regts I was not interested in) for £3.50 online

The war diaries give a day by day account of the battalion's movements

I can see from medal card that 3974 entered France on 17 Dec 1915, which may give a clue to which battalion he was in, but medal roll should confirm. Also it shows him discharged class Z, look that up on Long,Long, Trail to get exact definition.

Anyway if it is 3974 you have enough to follow his movements.

The battalion history should include the band.

And finally the Great War Forum which is worth posting on as there are some there that may be able to help yo more than I can

[spof]

A bit of background information on why the 2nd Bn RMF was chosen as the original topic for this thread.

http://ww1talk.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=234

[collieh86]

hi my granfather henry harrington was born 1899. in the copy of the 1911 census of ireland i have he was 12 years old that year. he joined the royal munster fusiliers pre war and entered the theater on the 13-8-14. i have a picture postcard of him in his uniform his pay book a cloth embroidered post card he sent and the best of the lot the letter his parents sent the british army looking for the return of their child.

his medal card gives his reg no. as 9811.
in 1918 he transfered to the army supply corp and his reg number is emt 63819. any idea what emt ment, and what else can i find out about this man/boy.

Is there any information or help you can give me, it would be greatfully aprreciated