David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden

[sandra B.]

Hi Firefox,
Sorry Dave don't want to step on your toes with this one, but there is a David Hartley , in fact two David Harleys who lived at Threapcroft, Illingworth. One married Wilkinsons and related to my Amblers and Cockroft distantly.
There is a good site. ie google David Hartley threapcroft. 'the Hartley Family of Chorlton'. Don't know if this is what you are looking for Firefox,but certainly a lot of history on there. You may have already seen it.
Sandra

[firefox1960]

Sandra
Thanks for your response,I am unsure what the Brown Horse inn -  Lane Ends Northowram has to do with the Hartleys - as suggested by Dobfarm ?,I have not managed to locate anything regarding this.
I am unaware of any link to David Hartley the philosopher,or the Craggvale coiners.
Dobfarms post seemed rather cryptic ?.
I would dearly love to progress much further.
I think I can safely say following the kind help I have had on roots chat ,that David Hartleys b 1772 Ovenden was David Hartley b 1754 in Wheatley,as mentioned many times- the non conformist element has proved a tad difficult.
Kind regards Brian H.

[Marmaduke 123]

Hello Brian

I think the Brown Horse Inn is in Clifton, not Northowram. It was a meeting place for Luddites, including a William Hartley and a Samuel Hartley. I expect that is the Hartley connection Dave was referring to.

See Malcolm Bull's Calderdale Companion:

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/qq_94.html


Anne

[firefox1960]

Anne
Many thanks for the follow up on my enquiry,the Hartley clan will be the death of me.
Kindest regards Brian H.

[drewhowson]

Hi all,
The Brown Horse i think you are refering to is at Lane Ends, Northowram/Coley, on the Brighouse and Denholme gate road between Hipperholm and Shelf,  opposite Westcroft lane leading into Northowram.
 The postcode is HX3 7SD

the pub is still there.
See Malcolm Bull's website
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/p200_b.html

Regards,

Andy

[Marmaduke 123]

Does this one have any Hartley connections though? It seems there may be some confusion between the two - maybe Dobbie can enlighten us?

Anne

[firefox1960]

Anne
Some time ago I looked for a link to the Luddites and  cragvale coiners and also the philosopher David Hartley.
Sadly I did not locate a Link.
Kindest regards Brian.

[andrew hartley]

For those researchers interested in Hartleys of Halifax, in particular descendants of Rev David Hartley, I submitted earlier this year most of what I know to the Malcolm Bull website

[dobfarm]

David Hartley Bapt 1773 father David -in Halifax Independent Chapel in the parish of Northowram

http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/

http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/help/recordset_info.php?rs=RG4&piece=2077&sub_piece=

Ovenden village location now also in 1772/3 and Greater Ovenden parish area are two different meanings, the boundary border between Northowram Parish and Ovenden parish was just West of Boothtown, West of Oueensbury road and Boothtown road (One main road with two names) Thus David the father could have lived in Ovenden parish and worshiped in Northowram parish area.


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