David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden

[firefox1960]

I have hit a real brickwall with this one.
I would love to locate his place of baptism,it would be great to locate this missing data.
He died in 1851 shortly after the 1851 census (in Rastrick)
He did Marry Sarah Whitley on 10/07/1791-in Halifax.
This is the furthest i can get back to on my direct line.
I have looked at the igi,but really haven't a clue as to his baptism and his parents ans siblings.
Any suitable suggestions or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards Brian H.

[Mum44]

Hi Brian   

Bit confused - should your heading read died 1851 ?

Do you know when and where he was born - was he in Rastrick on the 1851 census?  The one born 1772 Ovenden ?

[firefox1960]

Sorry for the  error on the posting.
David Hartley was according to the  1851 census-born in Ovenden-west /Yorkshire.
I am Aware he is buried in Rastrick at St Matthews church-but despite a good look at the mi .i was unable to locate the grave.
I have an extensive family tree,but this is  a major brickwall.
Kind regards Brian H.

[firefox1960]

Sorry for the  error on the posting.
David Hartley was according to the  1851 census-born in Ovenden-west /Yorkshire.
I am Aware he is buried in Rastrick at St Matthews church-but despite a good look at the mi .i was unable to locate the grave.
I have an extensive family tree,but this is  a major brickwall.
Kind regards Brian H.

[dave the tyke]

Hi Brian,
Ovenden I think would have been in the chapelry of Illingworth at the time of David's birth. Baptisms for that time are recorded in the records of Halifax St. Johns but David's is not, at least not amongst those on the CFHS CD 1754-1812. Nor is it recorded at Elland St. Mary's where many of the Raistrick BMDs were recorded.
Have you had a look at the Northowram registers ? perhaps your ancestor was a non-conformist ?

Dave

[firefox1960]

Dave
Thanks for your very helpful response,it's  very frustrating .
I have well and truly hit a brickwall.
I did feel that the std search on the  igi latter day saints site would have helped.
Sadly that was not to be.
David Hartleys offspring were all baptised in Ovenden according to the Hugh Wallis igi for Yorkshire.
Kindest regards Brian.

[firefox1960]

Dave
David Hartley and wife Sarah (Whitleys) children were baptised at the zion new connexion Church in Ovenden.
I am not sure what significance that would have.
I am not really sure what direction to take.
How might i view the Northowram registers.
And another strange thing not one of my direct line (Hartleys) apart from two have the christian name of David -one being David Hartle'y b 1772 as mentioned here.
Kindest regards Brian.

[Marmaduke 123]

Hello Brian

I am interested in the Hartleys, as I may have a connection but not through your branch.

There seem to be at least two probable further children of David and Sarah - Barnet Heartley baptised at the Wesleyan chapel Brighouse (Rastrick is now part of Brighouse), born 21 Jan 1803, parents David and Sally, and Grace, with them in 1841 aged 27.

There are three other Hartleys on the 1851 who are recorded as born Rastrick - James 1807, Simeon 1809, Geo 1813. They are all fancy woollen weavers. I don't know if they are related or not, a quick search hasn't found baptisms for any of them (or Grace).

I expect you know about the Yorkshire Coiners and 'King' David Hartley? If not have a look at this:

www.yorkshirecoiners.com

It might explain why David wasn't a popular name among the Hartleys!

Anne

[firefox1960]

Anne
I do have extensive detail for my Hartley clan from David Hartley b 1772 Ovenden and family in the Halifax area to the Movement  of John Hartley b 1824 Rastrick to Sheffield to start a cutlery business he called John Hartley and sons.
I am aware of the coiners,sadly-no link as yet.
I did wonder if illingworth could provide a likely location for David Hartley's baptism.
I have well andtruly hit a brick wall,and as you state David was quite an uncommon name for a Hartley for certain reasons.
Kindest regards Brian H.