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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #18 on: Monday 15 November 10 08:46 GMT (UK) »
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David Hartley bapt 11th Nov 1754 father David at Halifax Northgate Presbyterian chapel

David Hartley Bapt 21st March 1773 Halifax Independent Chapel Northowram
father David

Dobbie, can I ask where you managed to get hold of this information ?

Dave
Bland, Greenwood Bland, Ellis, Benn, Woodhead, Priestley, Illingworth, Lightowler, Platts, Boys, Bradley, O'Hara, Hall<br /><br />Areas -  North Bierley, Northowram, West Bowling, Horton, Shelf, Allerton, Queensbury, Haworth, Ovenden, Halifax, Luddenden, Midgley, Elland, Littleborough

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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #19 on: Monday 15 November 10 09:00 GMT (UK) »
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David Hartley bapt 11th Nov 1754 father David at Halifax Northgate Presbyterian chapel

David Hartley Bapt 21st March 1773 Halifax Independent Chapel Northowram
father David

Dobbie, can I ask where you managed to get hold of this information ?

Dave

Hi

Repository Kew London

http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/
You'll need to register free
free info -Click on RG4-3167  gives Chapel and Click on Full detail gves extact dates limted 1754

Free info -Click on RG4-2077 gives Chapel and Click on Full detail gves extact dates limted 1773


Cost about £3 each for more info

or contact Ian at Halifax WYAS for copies of Fiche/film  about £3 each with SAE
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 November 10 09:05 GMT (UK) »
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Repository Kew London

Did you have to visit or are they available on film anywhere ?

OK I've now seen the added link, thanks

Dave
Bland, Greenwood Bland, Ellis, Benn, Woodhead, Priestley, Illingworth, Lightowler, Platts, Boys, Bradley, O'Hara, Hall<br /><br />Areas -  North Bierley, Northowram, West Bowling, Horton, Shelf, Allerton, Queensbury, Haworth, Ovenden, Halifax, Luddenden, Midgley, Elland, Littleborough

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 November 10 09:14 GMT (UK) »
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Repository Kew London

Did you have to visit or are they available on film anywhere ?

OK I've now seen the added link, thanks

Dave

updated my post above with exact details
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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #22 on: Monday 15 November 10 09:27 GMT (UK) »
A few MI's St Martins Church Brighouse -I hold copyright on these.  Held at Whitley Beaumont Collection. (My Family private records)

Also a copy has been deposited with Huddersfield Library along with alot of Halifax info held in Tolson/Beaumont/Ramsden estate Records.

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My Beaumont/Ramsden  family forebares deposited most family records in YAS Claremont Archives Leeds again Halifax and Huddersfield stuff also they hold all the Halifax Lidsters no doubt some Hatley's will be in these.

They have person name  and place index at Halifax WYAS and YAS Leeds- Halifax and Huddersfield library hold indexes and Illingworth church has Church info on genuki website

Its a case of going, seeing and searching.

Well best I can help with.

Good hunting.

D/F

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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #23 on: Monday 15 November 10 16:53 GMT (UK) »
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #24 on: Monday 15 November 10 19:10 GMT (UK) »
D/f
All good stuff and very interesting,although I have yet to locate anything on Brown Horse Inn- Lane Ends Northowram relating to my elusive Hartley clan.
Do you think that the Hartley's are linked to the Northowram area ?.
I thank you for your time and effort,I am a small fish in a very big lake at the moment.
I have an extensive family tree,but have failed to make much progress on my direct - Hartley line.
I have solid detail from 1772 to the present day with numerous family links, in to my Hartley line.
I did explore the potential link to the cragg vale coiners and also David Hartley the philosopher,and as yet found nothing to suggest any connection.
I keep taking time out to firm up the other aspects of the family tree ,then returning to - (my brickwall)
Grateful thanks and kindest regards Brian H. ;)

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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #25 on: Monday 15 November 10 19:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Northowram and Ovenden villages are a few miles apart but the area boundaries of Ovenden and Northowram meet somewhere near Bradshaw. Cuting across Holmfield and Buttershaw top from Iliingworth  is a flat hill moorland  at the top of the valley head above Halifax and Ovenden village but run across to Shibden and Northoram village. You need to understand the topography also that these remote farm smallholding weavers used the turnpike roads to sell cloth at markets at Brighouse , Halifax and Bradford. St Mary Illingworth/Mount zion/other Chapels and Northowram Church's and nonconformist chapels had entries with abodes Northowram in Illingworth Church's and visa versa at Northowram BMD's parish entries as abodes ie;- Illingworth, Holmfield, Ovenden, Bradshaw & Buttershaw villages meaning the lived in different areas to where they worshiped.

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Re: David Hartley born 1772 in Ovenden
« Reply #26 on: Monday 15 November 10 21:18 GMT (UK) »
D/f
Thanks again for the informative detail,any ideas regarding the Brown Horse  Inn  at Lane ends Northowram,that you mentioned earlier,I have been unable to establish any detail or Hartley family link.
Kindest regards Brian H. ;)
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