James Ritson of Gawith Place, Kendal

[CaroleW]

Why do you say Robert would be else where, do you mean work houses

We have already established that Robert was with Betsy Burrow in 1901 hence my comment.  She was perhaps better placed to care for such a young baby than Thomas and Annie Colman

how do I trace his mother as cannot find Keenans in westmorland, if she was from Ireland where do I look for her, can I research addresses?

You need to buy a copy of the marriage cert of James and Mary to establish her fathers name and occupation.  She died at 28 so was b around 1873

However - the marriage cert will not give her birthplace and research in Ireland is very difficult if you don't know which county they were born in

[CaroleW]

Looking at freebmd - the only likely marriage is this one

September qtr 1893 James Ritson Kendal 10B 1066

However - names on same page were Mary Ann Stilling and Dinah Hayes

No Mary Keenan

[CaroleW]

I have just checked the full GRO index and the reference above definitely does cross reference to a Mary Keenan

[CaroleW]

It's a matter of debate re: the reference so if you do decide to buy the certificate I would recommend you mention that the GRO image is blurred

Mary Keenan September qtr 1893  Kendal   Volume: 10b 
Page: 1056

I have viewed both images for Ritson and Keenan and my vote goes to 1066 as the page number

[Puffin81]

Hello did you get an answer to your question? I might be able to help

[CaroleW]

Rumba has not been online with RC for over 3yrs and has not acknowledged the info posted since last reply.

May have changed email address or may not have profile set up to receive email alerts for posts so you may not get a reply

[Puffin81]

Rumba has not been online with RC for over 3yrs and has not acknowledged the info posted since last reply.

May have changed email address or may not have profile set up to receive email alerts for posts so you may not get a reply

I figured that might be the case, shame I only found this site last week.

If anyone does check in or has the same question robert was abandoned after his mother died in 1901 and ended up in the children's home in 1904.  Meanwhile James his father went to Rochdale area with the sister Gertrude and re married.  Robert meanwhile spent his time in the children's home, later leaving getting married and living in tebay Westmorland, where he is buried.  I know this as he is my G grand father, plus the census backs it up. 

However does anyone have the facility to look up this address, 11 gawith place aka yard 73 I believe in 1901, I know Mary died in that house but a month later the census came and there not at that address