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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 14 April 10 18:27 BST (UK) »
Do you have any information on the Deighans of Magilligan.

The furthest back I have is Neal born circa 1795 - I don't know who he married or how many children and I don't know if his family were natives of the area or incomers from further south
I have Neal b 1795, William his son b 1828 and Neal his grandson  b1852 and Mary his great grandaughter b 1887

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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 14 April 10 21:07 BST (UK) »
1831 census [head of household]

Jas & Wm Deighan in Ballymaclary
Neil Deighan in Doaghs Upper Middle

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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 14 April 10 21:12 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   There is a will abstract for a Neil Deighan of Doaghs who died in 1910. It can be found on the PRONI Will section.

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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 15 April 10 09:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gortinanima

I'm not cogniscent with the format and information on the 1831 census and didn't think there were any surviving censuses until 1901.
Does the census show other members of the Deighan household at the time and is it available anywhere?
Are there any other surviving censuses pre 1901?
Finally I saw on your original post that there were Deighan and surname variants thereof in the area between 1600 and 1800 - how might I find out more about them?

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Thanks I found a short extract of the £20 he left.

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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 15 April 10 10:03 BST (UK) »
1831 census was really a sort of religious count- lists head of household, number of males and number of females, and religion (R.C., Established Church (Church of Ireland), Presbyterian and other).
For Magilligan area, as far as I know, next census is 1901 but there are abstracts from 1841/1851 census in Old Age Pension claims.
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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 15 April 10 10:40 BST (UK) »
I have a reference for a James Deighan in Ballymaclary undated [probably between 1806-1820] but this was probably the same James that was in the 1831 census which only names head of household.

The reference to James Deighan can be found in
PRONI D/1514/2/4/16 (Hervey/Bruce Estate Papers)
Manuscript valuation book c. 1800

This is a brilliant little book packed with information on a dozen townlands in Magilligan parish. There are details on denominations, detailed observations on the nature and quality of the land and land use. PRONI has dated the book c. 1800 but a careful examination of the list of tenants has led me to conclude that this date is a little early. The Reverend Father Patrick Lynch is listed in Ballymaclary and we know that he was Parish Priest of Magilligan in the years 1806-1823 (he died and was buried in Lavey in 1832). Fortunately, there is an excellent index detailing all the tenants of the various townlands.


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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 19:22 BST (UK) »


In the 1740 Protestant Householders' returns Harry Cummings was in Carnowry.

In a valuation of the Hervy Bruce estate in Magilligan dated after 1806 and before 1823
there was a Samuel & James McCummins in Tircreevan and an Edward McDermott in Drumahorgan.

What is this henry bruce estate? Would protestants be in their? I think that may be my g,g,g grandfather james cummins and if it is that proves hes from magilligan!

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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 19:41 BST (UK) »
It's Hervey Bruce (surname) not Henry Bruce- estate papers would list details surch as tenants irrespective of religion. See here-
http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction_hervey_bruce-2.pdf
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Re: Surnames of Magilligan parish
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 17 August 10 19:51 BST (UK) »
It's Hervey Bruce (surname) not Henry Bruce- estate papers would list details surch as tenants irrespective of religion. See here-
http://www.proni.gov.uk/introduction_hervey_bruce-2.pdf

Thanks very much i was just wondering if this estate had presbyterians within it as i had always thought that the estates where taken by the english and then rented out to the native irish catholics. Hmm just seen their that they shifted to the clotworkers company maybe thats why my g g g grandfather moved to coleraine, hervey bruce seems to have owned all the land here.