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John James Browne
« on: Tuesday 14 October 08 22:01 BST (UK) »
Hello, I am looking for information on John James Browne born about 1840 in Liverpool area.  Married Annie Dixon before 1866.

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Sydney

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Re: John James Browne
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 22:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Sydney,

Could this be his marriage from Lancashire bmd site http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

1862     BROWNE John   DIXON Mary A   Manchester, Chorlton-on-Medlock, St. Luke   Manchester

and his birth registration from freembd: John James Browne
 1841    Sep Qu   Liverpool  Vol 20 p. 445


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Re: John James Browne
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 22:27 BST (UK) »
Dear Barbara,

Yes I believe that this is correct.  Annie is also known as Mary Ann. Do you happen to know if John James is on any census prior to 1862?

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Re: John James Browne
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 22:52 BST (UK) »
It would help if you had details from his marriage certificate or later census, his address at time of marriage, his occupation, father's name and occupation

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Re: John James Browne
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 23:06 BST (UK) »
If he's the one in Higher Bebington in 1871 with a son who was born in Wavertree, then this is a possible

1861 RG9/2737 folio 121 page 28/29

Church Lane, Wavertree, West Derby, Lancashire
BROWNE
John head M 63 Timber Merchant    Ireland 
Frances wife M 48
Dora Ann dau Unm 21
John J son Unm 19 Clerk Timber Trade
Richard B son 16 Clerk Cotton Broker
Valentine son 10 Scholar
all except father born Liverpool,
and on the next page
Winefred M ............       page torn so rest is not available 
Jane Cunley.............                    "
Mary ........................                    "
 

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Re: John James Browne
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 23:17 BST (UK) »
Here's that same family in 1851:

HO107/2182 Folio  473 Page  4
11 St. James' Road, Liverpool
John Browne head m 52  Timber Merchant  Wexford Ireland
Frances         wife  m 38
Frances M      dau      10  Scholar
John J            son        9       "
Charles C        "          8        "
Richard B         "          6        "
Peter C            "          3        "
Mary E            dau       1
Valentine J     son        1 month
wife and children all born Liverpool
Mary Hughes serv  unm   29 House servant & Cook  Denbighshire Wales
Margaret Batter  serv "   17 Housemaid    Ireland Kilkenny
Maria Oleary          "    "   23 Nurse            Wexford
   
 
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Re: John James Browne
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 13:35 BST (UK) »
Dear Barbara,

At first glance this looks like the right family.  John James's son was born in West Derby and the names Valentine and Charles are in the newer generations.  I don't know anything about Higher Bebington, but it looks like it is just off Church Rd, the address givenn in 1861.

Well now, I guess, it is off to Wexford Ireland for John Browne (Sr.)..thanks so much,

Sydney

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Re: John James Browne
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 14:12 BST (UK) »
If he's the one in Higher Bebington in 1871 with a son who was born in Wavertree

I don't know anything about Higher Bebington, but it looks like it is just off Church Rd, the address givenn in 1861

Here's the 1871 that I was referring to:

1871 RG10/3741 Folio  39 Page 19
Esplanade, Rock Park, Rock Ferry, Higher Bebington, Cheshire
John J Brown head m  29  Annuitant  Lancs  Liverpool
Annie M  "      wife  m  26                    Nottingham Newcastle
Chas R   "        son       5                     Wavertree Liverpool
John D    "         "          3                     Lancs Crosby
Alice Carroll servant s 17 Dom serv    Liverpool


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Re: John James Browne
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 October 08 14:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Barbara.  You have been a great help.  That is a match to my g-granfather (Charles Redmond).  Thank you,

Sydney