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Re: Karori Cemetery
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 09:12 BST (UK) »
I know he had died by 1903 when his wife Catherine died in Nelson.He was a mariner and was born in England about 1827.I can't find any record of his death in Nelson or anywhere in NZ and can only presume he died while at sea.

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Re: Karori Cemetery
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 09:19 BST (UK) »
I found Catherine on the Nelson City Council database.  I can also see why you say Roman Catholic as well.

Do you have Catherine's death cert?  This would have on it if William was alive or not when she died

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Re: Karori Cemetery
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 11:09 BST (UK) »


Do you have Catherine's death cert? This would have on it if William was alive or not when she died


From denysenz's earlier thread - November '06 ...   Christine Clayton found the following - a death notice for Catherine ARNOLD stating that she was the relict (widow) of William ARNOLD.   
[Source:  'Nelson Evening Mail" - 17 August 1903].

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Re: Karori Cemetery
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 11:17 BST (UK) »

thank you both , it doesn't sound like my William Arnold as I am pretty sure he was a Roman Catholic.I knew of the 3rd Feb article but will check out the 4th ,thank you


Hi denysenz

I wouldn't totally discount this William ARNOLD (1902) as being "your man".    There could be a variety of reasons why he was buried in a Church of England plot.   (The age certainly seems right).      The newspaper article gives occupation as "wharf labourer"  aged 75 years -  perhaps he was a "retired mariner" ?


Question :    Did Catherine and William live together in Wellington and have you looked for them on an electoral roll ?

(Again, newspaper article (3 Feb. 1902) gives address as "Tinakori Road"  (probably to be found on the Wellington Central Electoral Roll)) :

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Re: Karori Cemetery
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 21:17 BST (UK) »
yes , that was my thinking when I read he was a wharf labourer.although Catherine , his wife is listed in the electoral role and Wises directory there is never any mention of William , not even on the electoral roles.Maybe becuase he was always at seaThere are other William Arnolds in Nelson but these are a different family again.my William was born in Cheshire England and married in Nelson in 1860 , they had about 6 children so he must have been there some of the time.I have ordered the death cert, for the one who died in Wellington 1902 and hope it may shed some light on whether or not it is the right one.

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Re: Karori Cemetery
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 22:32 BST (UK) »

....  although Catherine , his wife is listed in the electoral role and Wises directory there is never any mention of William , not even on the electoral roles.Maybe becuase he was always at sea. 


Hi denysenz

Mmmm ... that is the frustrating thing about trying to track our sea-faring ancestors.   Good luck  ... hope the death cert. brings the answers you want.

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Re: Karori Cemetery
« Reply #15 on: Friday 24 October 08 05:27 BST (UK) »
hurrah !I got the death cert. and it is him.Finally I have found when he died but of course it throws up more questions.The death cert details say he was born in Wales and arrived in NZ aged 12 in 1840.Birth certs of his children say he was born Birkenhead Cheshire.

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Re: Karori Cemetery
« Reply #16 on: Friday 24 October 08 09:23 BST (UK) »
Hi, the info is only as good as the informant know.  Does it say who the informant was?

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