Help Please - RAMPLING

[boogarbooz]

I am at a dead end at the moment with my research, an am looking for any help possible!!

I was recently given some new family information about a an ancestor whom I have been trying to locate for ages, which I am grateful for, but am stuck again. Can anyone help?

This is what I have:

Henry Rampling was born about 1821, I am led to believe by both family info, and court records he was born in or near Sudbury Suffolk, to a James Rampling and a Sarah, maiden name unknown. James was supposed to have been born about 1793 in or around Sudbury.

James and Sarah had at least 5 known children:
Henry b. abt 1821
John Edward (chr St gregory's Sudbury 12/11/1827)
James (chr St Gregory's Sudbury 9/9/1825)
and 2 daughters, although I cannot confirm this.

Henry was transported to Australia in 1839 as a convict. James went to NZ, then also settled in Australia about 1854. Johh went to London, and I have located on the 1881 census, but I have found nothing on the parents, or on Henry's birth/ Christening, or on his supposed sisters/

Could someone please help me shed some light on this?

Thanks!
Sherrie

[suffolk*sue]

Hello and welcome to Rootschat. 

See the following thread.


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,332750.0.html

[suffolk*sue]

The nearest marriage I can find on Boyds index is the following, but don't know if it may be a bit early.


1804 / RAMPLIN  JAS / JUBY  SARA / BURY ST EDMUNDS ST MARY  /SUFFOLK 

[Annette7]

Hi Sherrie

I wonder whether the answer lies in Long Melford.   The NBI shows that in St. Gregory, Sudbury in the period 1826 to 1860 there were just 2 entries for Rampling:

Sarah aged 7 buried 31/5/1830
Sarah aged 36 buried 5/7/1833

The older Sarah looks like she is is James' wife.   I looked on the IGI for a Sarah Rampling bc.1823 and found:

Sarah Ramplin bp.18/6/1823 Long Melford dau. of James and Sarah

plus found:

Mary Ann Ramplin bp.15/4/1818 Long Melford dau. of James and Sarah.

I can't check on the Hugh Wallis site as it seems to have disappeared at the moment (as discussed on earlier threads) so don't know if all records for the main church at Long Melford are covered on the IGI although I think not.   There are some entries for an Independent and looking at The Cosford Database  shows there was a Rampling family there - there were at least 2 couples having children in Long Melford in the late 18th C namely a Peter and Mary (Salter) married 1796 Long Melford (Boyds) and a John and Hannah (possibly Hannah Ost 1789 Glemsford which is just a skip away from L.M.).  James Rampling the elder could have been a child of either of these couples.

I don't know if this is a red herring but found at Long Melford on 1841 Census a John Rampling 15 with a Charles Steward 55 and Hannah Steward 65.   Found on IGI a Charles Stewart (think should be Steward) married a Hannah Rampleing 27/2/1822 Long Melford.   Since Hannah would have been around 46 at this time I wonder whether she was the widow of John Rampling and that James may have been a son of John and Hannah, with John Rampling 15 with Charles and Hannah at Long Melford in 1841 being the John Edward Rampling b.1827 (only a year out) and therefore Hannah's grandson.   Worth a thought!   (Hannah Steward was buried at L.M. 25/2/1847 aged 71)

With the 2 daughters being baptised at Long Melford in 1818 and 1823 seems likely that Henry's should be there too.   Certainly the Long Melford coverage is very patchy on the IGI.

Hope this helps a little.

Annette

[suffolk*sue]

According to Suffolk Marriage index, Hannah Rampling was a widow when she married Charles Stewart.

[boogarbooz]

Thanks for all the info, it's definitely worth looking into, and is sounding very very promising!! The James Rampling/Mary Sharpe parentage as discussed in another thread I have looked into and discounted because the Henry to that marriage turns up in Yorkshire with the entire family on the 1851 census, which means it can't be that family, as my Henry was in Australia at that time. I have gotten into countless arguments with others who continue to follow that line, despite the evidence to disprove it.

The deaths in Sudbury could explain why I can't find them on the census, and the girls being born in Long Melford could also explain why I can't find them either!

Thanks again for all your help!

[smudwhisk]

Hi Sherrie

Extracted from the Long Melford baptism register (as we have Ramplins elsewhere in the area):

15 April 1818 - Mary Ann Rampling dau of James and Sarah, of this parish, shoemaker

29 oct 1819 - Henry Rampling son of Mary Ann of this parish

4 March 1820 - Henry Rampling son of James and Sarah, of this parish, shoemaker

25 July 1821 - Susan Rampling dau of James and Sarah of this parish, shoemaker

18 June 1823 - Sarah Ramplin (as written) dau of James and Sarah of this parish, shoemaker

No more baptisms to them in Long Melford.

Nicola

[smudwhisk]

Mum thinks she may have been through the later Sudbury registers so is going to check what Ramplin(g) entries there are in those so will advise what if anything is found.

Nicola

[boogarbooz]

Thanks for that! Henry's age definitely fits with everything I have found so far!