Missing on census night?

[digital1]

I have five children listed on a census for a particular address, all identified as "son" or "daughter", specifically of John and Julia.  But no John or Julia.  Would this be because John and Julia were missing on census night or might there be another reason? 

[Ecneps]

Hi,

Excuse me for first checking what may seem obvious -  are they listed at the top of the page, if so have you checked for their parents on the previous page (which could be missing) ?  If there is no-one listed as Head of their household, the parents have probably been missed off.

If you'd like to give full details maybe someone will be able to help find them

Kind regards
Barbara
 

[digital1]

Yes, they're at the top of the page!  It didn't even occur to me.  That's why I asked, in case I missed something obvious.  I'd be very grateful if someone could help - it's difficult to get library time at the moment.   The parents potentially provide a huge clue.

1861 census - Lancs - Tyldesley - Flaherty

[Annette7]

Full family details:

John Flaherty   48    b. Galway, Ireland
Julia  Flaherty   40           ditto
Edward Flaherty 22         ditto
John Flaherty      22         ditto
James Flaherty    16         ditto
John Flaherty       11    b. Tyldesley, Lancs.
Mary Flaherty        6             ditto
Thomas Flaherty   4             ditto   

So indeed children of John and Julia.

Annette

[Sisterjane]

Hi Barbara...I think..

This is the 1881..

RG11/3841/129/39...John/Julia Mullin

The 1861 is

RG9/2805/71/47..Julia Corless

I havent got access to images at the moment but the reason I know the Refs are because I noted them on my pad last night while looking up the Corless family for Digital1

Jane

[Ecneps]

Glad to help!  Sometimes the obvious things are the easiest to miss 

edit just adding the lodgers at same address as I realise from what Jane said that the Corless family is connected

1861  RG9/2805  Folio 70 Page  46/7
48 Blenheim Street, Tyldesley
John Flaherty     head m 48 Farm Labourer   Ireland Galway
Julia       "         wife   m 40                                   "
Edward  "        son    s  22 Cotton Spinner           "
John       "          "      s  18 Cotton Piecer              "
James     "          "         16 Cotton Packer Up        "
William    "          "         11 Scholar                 Tyldesley
Mary       "        dau         6     "                             "
Thomas  "         son        4      "                             "
/
Patrick Langin  lodger m 25 Farm Labourer 
Margaret  "         "       m 26 Cotton Dressing Frame Tenter
Mary         "         "           13
Martha Fenerty   "      m  22 Farm Labourer
Bridget     "          "     s   17 Cotton Dressing Frame Tenter
Patrick      "          "          10 Cotton Scavenger
Ellen   Corless      "          10 Cotton Dressing Frame Tenter
Julia          "          "     s    18        "         "         "          "
Matthew Loftus    "     s   16  Cotton Spinner
Bridget Crorren (or Craven) 19 Cotton Cop Winder
all lodgers born Galway

Barbara

[Sisterjane]

Ooooooppppssss That will teach me to just dive in LOL..

Sorry.....

Jane 

[Ecneps]

Hi Jane,

That's ok, though not sure what you're sorry about! I didn't realise you'd been looking for the family, so probably I dived in not you 
The more the merrier

Barbara
 

[Sisterjane]

Hi Barbara

It was another post from Digital1 that I helping with last night which involved a Julia Corless(she married a John Mullin)

Here it is..I spent ages looking to see if they were in England for the 1851 but couldnt see anything.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,333194.msg2130633.html#msg2130633

Jane