1841 Census - I am looking for

[IndisVanyar]

1851 census has a John Roberts, born St Chads, unmarried, aged 18, occupation AG Lab living as a servant in the household of a
John Bate, Farmer, in Pontesbury, Shropshire
(HO107/1990/255/ 9)

A possible for Richard might be:
HO107/2154/37/33
Marple, Cheshire
Address - Hollins Fold
Richard Roberts, servant of W T Walmsley, unm, 14 factory hand, born Shropshire Halton
(I think that this was a cotton spinning mill - the census entry runs to several pages -  and the head was Betty Walmsley, widow with her sons, William T Walmsley, son, unm, 34, cotton spinner
and Charles E Walmsley, son, unm, 27, also a cotton spinner)

http://www.marple-uk.com/hollins.htm - gives some background to the mill.

[CoryJR]

Wow thats great Nell.

The parents (Thomas & Elizabeth) ages seem to be a little off but I am pretty sure thats the family. My ancester William was definately born in Shrewsbury, Shropshire. I have no idea where he went in 1851 (I am really trying to find out)... but he ends up in Birmingham and marries a Sarah Fletcher in 1857.  On his marriage cert...it says he is a Farmers Bailiff. I wonder if that helps out at all with the census search.

Thanks for everything thus far!!!

Cory

[IndisVanyar]

Another possible for Richard is
HO107/1994/544/ 12
Shropshire Alderton
Richard Roberts, servant, 15, Farm Labourer, born Shropshire Wem
living in the household of Richard Williams, Farmer of 88 acres, 1 Lab

1851 also has
HO107/1995/ 67/14
Wem
Address - Dark Lane
William Roberts, apprentice, 12, Apprentice to Tailor, born Salop Wem
(John Richards, head, mar, 56, Master Tailor, born Salop Wem)

It is interesting that these two both have Wem as their place of birth. There are however several other contenders for Richard Roberts, some giving Shrewsbury as their place of birth.

If you would like the images of all these possibles PM me with an email address and I will get them to you over the weekend.

Nell

[IndisVanyar]

I have found birth details for a William Roberts that fit the information found so far.

William Roberts
Birth 16 Sep 1836
Christening 25 Sep 1836 St Chad Shrewsbury Shropshire England
Parents Thomas Roberts and Elizabeth
(This an extracted record from the IGI site)

There is also a marriage that fits your family
Thomas Roberts to Elizabeth Jones
07 Dec 1831 St Chad, Shrewsbury, Shropshire (also an extracted record)

Nell

[IndisVanyar]

I think that this is about as far as I can go with your family. I have looked through the 1851 census and extracted those entries for unmarried William Roberts' that appear to fit in age and birthplace.

HO107/2172/46/256
Chester St Peter
Address Watergate St
William Roberts, lodger, unm, 18, Ostler, born Shropshire


HO 107/1990/12/164
Shropshire
Condover Village
William Roberts, servant, unm, 18, Farm Labourer, born Salop Condover
(living in the household of Thomas Bower, Maltster and farmer of 26 acres, employing 1 labourer) - presumably William Roberts

HO 107/1992/260/3
Shrewsbury St Mary
Address - Castle Foregate
William Roberts, serv, unm, 17, house servant, born Salop Shrewsbury
(in the household of Frederick Hammonds - Fishmonger)


HO107/1994/445/1
Great Ness Shropshire
William Roberts, serv, unm, 19, B, Smith, born Salop Shropshire
(living in the household of Richard Blacksmith employing 1 man)
(in the same household there are:
John Jones, Apprentice, unm, 17, B Smith, born Salop Shrewsbury
Martha Jones, servant, unm, 13, born Salop Shrewsbury)

Good luck with your searching

Nell

[CoryJR]

Thats fantastic Nell,

I am going to look into this a bit more deeply on Tuesday and see if I can figure something out.

But thanks again!

Cory

[CoryJR]

Hi Nell,

On this marriage record you pulled up - does it say anywhere who their parents were? Or anything else on this record. I am pretty sure this is my ancesters marriage!

There is also a marriage that fits your family
Thomas Roberts to Elizabeth Jones
07 Dec 1831 St Chad, Shrewsbury, Shropshire (also an extracted record)
(This an extracted record from the IGI site)

[IndisVanyar]

Sorry Cory - that is the extent of the information given for that record.

Wht not post a request on this board for someone to do a lookup of this marriage in the St Chad's Parish Records - hopefully that would give you their fathers at the very least.

Nell