1841 Census - I am looking for

[CoryJR]

Hello,

Can anybody out there send me information on my ancestors during 1841? I am looking for:

William Roberts - Born around 1836 or 1837 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire. So he would be about 4 in 1841. His father should be named Thomas Roberts. William also had a brother named John Roberts born around 1832. Can somebody be so friendly and send me the family & household information during this time?

Thank-you so much,

Cory

[Dolly_007]

Hi ,

Here is a poss:

1841 Shropshire Cenus: HO17-PIECE 911-BOOK 14
Township:Shelton,Hundred:Condover,Civil Reg: St Chads

Thomas b1806 -Ag Lab
Eliz b1806
John b1832
Richard b1834
William b1837
Joseph b1839.

Hope this helps
Cheers
Dolly.

[CoryJR]

Oh Thanks!

Ok that looks like it, but for some reason the father of the family is named 'William'?....When other another document I have (a marriage cert in 1857) says the father is named 'Thomas'. Does it say anywhere what the father or mother does for a living? What does the 'Ag Lab' mean?

[catylou]

Ag Lab is the occupation - agricultural labourer, v v common!

[Dolly_007]

Hi ,

Sorry, I put WILLIAM as the  FATHER -it should read THOMAS as the FATHER ! - I have gone back to the source and rechecked it.
Ag lab is the only occupation given to the father ,no occupation is given for the mother.

Cheers
Dolly.

[CoryJR]

That is terrific thank-you!

One last thing, I guess it doesn't say anywhere where Thomas or Elizabeth was born?

[Dolly_007]

Hi,

1841 census only asked if the person was born in the county/country,if they where, the letter "Y" was put in the colum , or "I" for Ireland,or "S" for Scotland - your ancestors had a " Y" for yes, born in the county/country.
The later census returns had more detail on where a person was born.

Cheers
Dolly.

[CoryJR]

Oh really I see. I wonder if there is a way to find the 1851 census of this family then. See sometime around this period the family moved to Birmingham or so we think. Some of the children end up getting married there. I have been been trying to find out where Thomas Roberts & his wife were born for sometime now....

[IndisVanyar]

Hi Cory

This one looks to be a possibility given the parent's names and the proximity of Shelton (1841 census) and Crowmeole.

1851 census has:
HO107/ 1992/ 667/7
Shrewsbury St Chad Shropshire
Address - Township of Crowmeole
Thomas Roberts, head, mar, 40, Labourer ag(ricultural), born Minton, Salop
Elizabeth Roberts, wife, mar, 42, labourer's wife, born Heazler? Salop
Joseph Roberts, son, unm, 11, born Shelton, Salop
Elizabeth Roberts, dau, 8, born  Copthorne, Salop
Thomas Roberts, son, 7, born Copthorne, Salop

(No sign here of John, Richard or William but they would all have been old enough to be employed as farm servants/labourers themselves - possibly 'living in' at their place of employment - I will have a look for them but without a place of birth and with such a common surname it will be a little like the needle in the haystack )
Nell