Did she exist at all??!

[Gaie]

So was Alice:

Alice Martha SHEPPARD
Alice SHEPPARD
or Alice Maude SHEPPARD?
No Florence as a middle name for any of them.

Both marriages would appear to be bigamous, but as you said, Suz, only the rich could afford divorce; the rest didn't bother with the formalities...

Added: Ah, so "Aunty Florrie" might not have been a blood relative after all!!!

[daisydaisy]

Hmm, my theory is that she was Alice....I don't think anything else makes sense.  I think Alice was simply Alice, no middle name but not sure.  I have no documents or anything for her yet.  I think she is birth ref V/5a, P/179, seems to match up.

[Gaie]

Sorry, I thought you said in your second post that you had Alice's bc .  The ref you have quoted goes with  Alice, no middle name, Mar Qtr 1878.

Where did you find Amelia Ellis and her two daughters?  They're not there in 1901.

Gaie

[daisydaisy]

I found them on the 1901, she is listed as his wife.

[daisydaisy]

Sorry, I thought you said in your second post that you had Alice's bc .  .

Gaie

Sorry, you're right I do...Loosing the plot!!

[suzard]

Have you got even more muddled???

There is 1901
3 morley St battersea
Amelia Ellis wife 35 Watminster
Amelia m daughter 13 S labeth
Amy daughter 9 brixton
RG13 445 144 33

now this entry looks like she is wife of head of family (Thomas bulgar? - but she isnt)
Thomas bulgar? lives at no 2 with wife and family and he is described as head

Amelia ellis is at no 3 and just described as "wife2 -there is no head of house -probably her husband was working away on census night

or is there another amelia ellis we havn't spotted in 1901??

Suz

[daisydaisy]

Suz,

That is weird, I have here in my hands a printout of the 1901 census which shows that very family in John's house!

[Tabbitha]

Suz,

That is weird, I have here in my hands a printout of the 1901 census which shows that very family in John's house!

Can you link us to the page daisydaisy please,as I cant find it either,and Im totally confused now,lol

[daisydaisy]

Oh glee, I can't see it now either!  The printout I have is from some time ago, and I'm not sure which site I found it on!