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Re: Fighting Zacky lee
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 October 08 19:24 BST (UK) »
I have also found that adraham lee was the father of the original fighting zacky lee who had the children Job and Urani, pretty certain we have the right zachariah dying in 1875 now, and that his nephew was the joseph boswell son of Levi and mary ann nee lee, now we need to fit the Buckley and coleman clans in!

just seen your topics and wanted to add that henrietta was the daughter of levi boswell and mary ann lee. henrietta married a santalina buckley...... (sant being the son of joiner, whos father was ''the joe buckley'' ''a noble breed of gypsy's''. (so stated in the journel) . that joins them buckleys up !!!!  ;D

just to add that henrietta & santalina apparently had over 20 children  :o
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smith (inc epping forest)
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Re: Fighting Zacky lee
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 October 08 22:44 BST (UK) »
as prev stated: Moselina Buckley m. Frank Lee. YES indeed,
Daniel levi Boswell who married Mary Ann LEE had Agnes married Frank Buckley and Henrietta married Santalena  (Sam) Buckley.

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Re: Fighting Zacky lee
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 October 08 22:53 BST (UK) »
hello ann65
think we have coresponded before (excuse spelling).
yes thats what i have also, 2 sisters marrying 2 brothers.
wonder how many children for sant & henrietta we could find through this site. it would be great to see how many turn up, apparently 26 is folklore but who knows?

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Re: Fighting Zacky lee
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 15:08 BST (UK) »
Daniel Levi & Mary Ann had:

Louisa c.1862 Hunton Kent
Rosanna c.1858 Gt Billing, Nthants

as well as Henrietta and Agnes whos baptisms I have not managed to find.

Santalena and Henrietta had:

Pearson b.cir 1863 Petherer Stf
Adeline b.cir 1865 Petherer Stf
Patrick b.cir 1867 Petherer Stf
Emily b.cir 1869 Petherer Stf
Arthur Hyter (female) b.cir 1870 Plaistow Ex





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Re: Fighting Zacky lee
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 February 09 11:13 GMT (UK) »
To summarize this jumble:

1) "Fighting" Zacky Lee (1803-1889) settled in East London with Rosetta. He had many famous descendants although he was not as good a fighter as his brother William.

2) A second Zachariah Lee (1807-1847) preferred to thump the violin instead but was transported for horse stealing. His spouse, Charlotte Hammond [Hn.C4], had a liaison with Riley Boswell who had only one relevant surname alias (Boss) and several forename aliases. You can find out more from the JGLS although it is wrong in many ways especially in calling Clara the sister of Riley.

3) The third Zachariah Lee (bc1811) appears in 1861MDX-0769/91/2 and he was not all that famous. It is pure coincidence that his wife was called 'Charlotte' and came from the same county (Kent) as that attributed to Charlotte Hammond.

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Re: Fighting Zacky lee
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 12 February 09 19:02 GMT (UK) »
dreadful problems when it comes to the correct name of daniel levy boswell. some believe he is the son of abel boswell rather than of clark boswell, others believe them 2 to be the same person and i have been asked before if allen and abel are one in the same.
does any-one know for sure? ???
and if the authors of the books have searched records,( i think we know which books im refering to) how can there be a mistake with having two different opinions? would'nt they eventually both find out the same answer if they are both asking the same questions to the same records/authorities/researchers....... ::)

i have seen so many variants for these boswells, that i dont know what to believe anymore and think i might just disown this side of my ancestors ;D

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Re: Fighting Zacky lee
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 02:42 GMT (UK) »
just read this post, so if i am right the zachariah that was transported is major lee's brother?
and does anyone know the surname of rosetta (born abt 1801)who married zachariah lee (born about 1798)father of job lee (Abt1821) who married maria gascoyne (abt 1822)

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 11:31 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Fighting Zacky lee
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 March 09 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi HawkesFH

When Britannia married Thomas Gregory in Leavesden, near Watford, Herts, in 1859, she used the surname Draper rather than Lee. On her marriage cert, her father's name is given as Shipton Draper, hawker.

This suggests that Britannia was a step-daughter of Zachariah, being a daughter to his wife Charlotte presumably by Shipton Draper in a former relationship.

Curiously, one of the witnesses to the marriage was a Rosetta Lee.

I appreciate that Britannia had a half-sister of that name but she would only have been about 11 years old when Britannia married: possibly too young to be a witness? But as Boswell37 tells us, "Fighting Zacky Lee" had a wife called Rosetta. Another coincidence? Or is there some sort of familial connection between the East London Zachariah and the West London one?

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