Our Brick Wall

[Clincher]

I'm pretty sure that the parish registers fro Southwatk are held at the London Metropolitan Archive, Northampton Road, EC!. I can't be certain because their website is, at the time of writing, not available. But when it is up you should be able to check it out for sure
The website is back online. If you just google LMA it should be 4th hit. Click on that and follow the link for London Generations and follow instructions there. Loads of registers for Saint George Southwark
You may also be interested in link to the digitisation project with Ancestry referred to on that site

[suffolk*sue]

The Battley/Churchyard marriage is on Pallots index. It states that Richard was of the parish of St. Gregory in London, they were both single and the marriage took place by licence.


Marriage Licence Allegations Index - Vicar-General  1694-1850

The marriage is listed here on the Originsnetwork. It costs £10 to purchase a hard copy of the licence. I havd no idea what details it might include.
Licence date = 17th July,1809


http://www.originsnetwork.com/

[DevonJewel]

Thanks for the info Sue,
Look like it's worth following up although I don't know how I can definitely connect it to our earliest known record of Richard Battley and Sarah (surname not stated) at the baptism of their son Richard in 1814 in Burnham Essex. 

I would have thought they would have had more children before 1814 perhaps girls as the son was called Richard, but I suppose they could have had an older son perhaps named after Richard's father if that was the done thing then.
Any other thoughts on a way forward or of positively linking it all - I know I'm asking a lot!
The only other clue we have is the 1851 census (which I don't have) where Henry Battley aged 7 is staying with his grandmother called Sarah White HO107 Piece 1511 Folio 80 Page 4 - so presumably Richard Battley has died and she has remarried and Mr White has died - or I suppose it could be his mother-in-law.

I'm sure there must be a way through - somewhere.....?
DJ

[suffolk*sue]

I don't know if you have any of this information. Between 1851 and 1861 Richard Battley jun. gained another wife. In 1851 he is married to a Harriett, found the following marriage on Boyds marriage index.


1825 / BATLEY  RIC/  SAVILL  HARRIET / WESTMINSTER ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE / MIDDLESEX 

If you haven't got the census details, let me know and I will post them for you.


I also couldn't find any Battleys/Batleys in Essex in the 1841 census, so perhaps Richard senior could have been a sea faring man of some description.

When putting the name Richard Battley/Batley into Boyds index, the majority of marriages come up in Yorkshire.

[DevonJewel]

Thanks Sue,
We know that Richard emigrated to Australia on the Orleana in 1840 and married Priscilla whilst there and they returned to England in 1843  and their son Henry was born at sea on the way back home to England.  Some of her relatives remained in Oz and we've had great help on Roots with their Australian records.
We've noticed that most Battleys hail from Norfolk/Suffolk or Yorkshire but we still haven't found the necessary connection - most frustrating!
Julia

[suffolk*sue]

Found the following marriage on findmypast.

Jonas White
Sarah Batley

6th March, 1835 = Chelsea


doesn't say shes a widow though.

[suffolk*sue]

Possible death


 Jonas White
1838
Mar qtr.
 Strand (1837-1913)
Vol: 1
Page: 409

[DevonJewel]

Hi Sue,
Those two records look really interesting and Bill has kindly offered to send for that certificate. 

The Harriet marriage in 1851 census that you mentioned would have to be son Richard (b1814) and he should still have been married to Priscilla at that time but I would appreciate seeing it if it's not too much trouble.

We are still floundering to find a marriage which can be linked to Sarah and Richard in 1914 in Burnham it might well be Sarah Churchyard but how does one make progress and not just guess? 

Should I be asking for look ups for other births in the years between son Richard's birth in Sep 1814 and try and see if I can work backwards with earlier births 1810-1813 soon after the wedding in 1809?

All suggestions welcome please.  I do appreciate everyone's help.
Many thanks
DJ

[suffolk*sue]

I can think of one possibility that might lead you to believing they might be the right couple. In 1851 it says Sarah was born in Burnham. You could see if a Sarah Churchyard baptism appears in the Burnham parish records at the approx time Sarah would have been born.
If they are the correct people, maybe Sarah went to London to work and met Richard. Perhaps she went "home" to have her baby christened. Has anyone checked Burnham parish records to see if any more children of them were baptised there.