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Re: Shoebridge Marriage Please.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 07 January 13 03:19 GMT (UK) »
thanks Keasy  for getting in  touch with  me

you need to do another posting before I  can  send you a PM

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Re: Shoebridge Marriage Please.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 January 13 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Jen

I understand you wanting a marriage certificate for the marriage of Philly and Peter Shoebridge. However, there were none at that time. Government records did not begin until 1837 so I am afraid you are not going to find one.

All I have is as follows:-

Firstly the marriage as echoed by Linda below

PR Saint Peter and Paul Church Tonbridge
Marriage register Page 139 Entry 416
5 April 1823 married by banns
Peter Shoebridge bachelor of this parish and
Philadelphia Vinall of this parish
Peter Shoebridge signed his name
Philadelphia Vinall made her mark X
Witness names are hard to make out.

The Banns Page 228 Entry 1185
Peter Shoebridge of Prospect Row Tonbridge and
Philadelphia Vinall of Brook Street Tonbridge
Banns called
9 March 1823
16 March 1823
23 March 1823

Secondly, my own bit of research

# There were three Philadelphia Vinalls born between 1800 and 1808 in Sussex #

(1) Philadelphia Mary Vinall baptised 23 September 1803 Buxted Sussex [*here]
Parents Alexander Vinall & Philadelphia (late Allcorn ne้ Newnham)
She married Peter Shoebridge son of William Shoebridge 5 April 1823 at Tonbridge

(2) Philadelphia Vinall baptised 6 November 1803 Fletching Sussex
Parents Stephen Sandals & Esther Vinall - illegitimate -  'base child'

(3) Philadelphia Vinall baptised 25 Septembr 1808 Cowfold Sussex
Parents George Vinall & Philadelphia (nee Billingsgate)

PLEASE NOTE -
# Another bogus Philadelphia Vinall has been added as 'shared information' to the IGI - Family Search Database #
This entry is incorrect. The entry says:-
Philadelphia Holmes Sandals Vinall baptised 25 September 1808
(the date of the baptism of the daughter of Philadelphia Vinall the daughter of George Vinalls & Philadelphia (nee Billingsgate))
But her parents are written as Stephen Sandals & Esther (nee Vinall).
As can be seen from the parish record above. Stephen Sandals and Esther Vinall were not married when Philadelphia was born. She was listed as a 'base' child - illegitimate - even though her father's name was included in the parish record.

The REAL Philadelphia Holmes Sandals (no Vinall) was born 14 July 1800 Fletching
Her parents were John Sandals & Elizabeth (nee Holmes)
[An entry on Ancestry has been altered to read:-
Philadelphia Holmes Sandals Sandals]

# Marriages of 2 Philadelphia Vinalls #
(1) Philadelphia Vinall married Peter Shoebridge 5 April 1823 Tonbridge Kent
(2) or (3) Another Philadelphia Vinall married Stephen Knight in Cowfold Sussex
             on 13 April 1833

*Details of this Philadelphia Vinall's marriage from Ancestry Parish Records on file
Name: Philadelphia Mary Vinall
Gender: Female
Age: 19 years
Spouse's Name: Peter Shoebridge
Age: 21 years
Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1823
Marriage Place: Tonbridge, Kent, England

*1841 census about Philadelphia Shoebridge
Name: Philadelphia M Shoebridge
Age: 38 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Gender: Female 
Civil Parish: Tonbridge 
Hundred: Tonbridge Lowey 
County/Island: Kent 
Country: England 
Street address: Southboro
Occupation: .
Registration district: Tonbridge 
Sub registration district: Tonbridge Wells 
Neighbors: View others on page 
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Shoebridge 40
Philadelphia Shoebridge 38 
Emma Shoebridge 15 
Alfred Shoebridge 10 
Catherine Shoebridge 7 
Sophia Shoebridge 6 
George Shoebridge 3 
Wm Crundwell 30 (lodger)

*Details of Philadelphia Shoebridge's death cert
Name: Phildaelphia Shoebridge
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Tonbridge
County: Kent, Sussex
Volume: 5
Page: 597

Hope this is of some use to you.

Regards
Suzanne

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Re: Shoebridge Marriage Please.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 07 January 13 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn Received your message if you are on GenesReunited you should be able to view my tree.
I"ve only just come on Rootschat and found it of great interest, I hope I can help you.

         Keith

P.S. My name on GenesReunited is Keith Shoebridge born 1937

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Re: Shoebridge Marriage Please.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 January 13 03:15 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks  to  Suzanne  for such  a detailed message thanks so  very  much
It is really appreciated.

Keith  thanks  for  that  I should be able to view  your tree on  GU

thanks  Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au