Elizabeth Holland *completed*

[deb usa]

just had a thought

i'm not sure if mam was getting at Elizabeth being left at the Richardson household when she was 12 and lived there which would make something else she said make sense........ok mam once told me that Elizabeth was brought up by her Grandmother Bessie Surtees......now Richards 1901 cencus says that his mother was called Bessie...... so maby Richards parents brought her up..........maby she couln't remember her real parents??? or Maby she was just a big fibber lol i'll try to look up that wittness and see if I can go somewhere from there,

Jo x x x

okay
 
richard Richardson = Elizabeth Surtees in 1892 Houghton Le Spring  Durham (parents of Richard bc 1900)... if Elizabeth Holland went to live with them when she was 12 ...that would = her with them 18917 ...surely she would have know her parents at that age


Also Elizabeth/Bessie Surtees would have been her grandmother mother in law and not her grandmother

[jojojnr]

and maby my mother is just nuts lol it seems Elizabeth is 1 big mystery before she gets married then after that I know every thing I'm seeing numbers now lol i'm going to have 5 minute break x x x x

[cathayb]

what is the name of the Vicar?.any birth dates,did he marry.anything at all you know about him.i will try and find him for you tomorrow.cathay

[jojojnr]

I know his name is John Richardson he was born in Houghton between 1919 and 1936 (the only record that remotely resembles him is John S Richardson mothers maiden name Harland 1924 mar q 10a 1002) - he married a lady named Olwyn I have no clue what her maiden name is and no clue if he had children

Sorry I know this info is lack but you can see how stuck I am...I never knew this side of my family at all so I have to rely on the ramblings of my mother

[cathayb]

sorry to be so thick but do you know where houghton is?i am hopeless on geography.cathay

[jojojnr]

it used to be on the outskirts of Durham until the Tyne and Wear thing came about Its full name is Houghton le Spring

there is a map on Yell.com
http://maps.yell.com/client/yell/
qs=durham&panel=business&sem=g&cam=sem_maps

Jo x x

[deb usa]

Morning all

Did some looking at births and found these possible children of Richard Richardson and Elizabeth Holland ...do the names ring any bells, Jo?

Thomas C Richardson
Oct q 1919
Mother's Maiden Name: Holland 
Houghton Le Spring  Durham 
Vol 10a  p 1232

Marriage date was 11.12.1919...so thomas being born in the same quarter as marriage adds up to her being already pregnant...also I wonder in the middle initial 'C' adds up to Clementson?


Mona Richardson
sept q 1821
Mother's Maiden Name: Holland  
Houghton Le Spring   Durham 
vol10a p 1136

can't find a John

deb

[jojojnr]

yes the thomas clementson Richardson is right and THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU you've found Mona I've searched for her and just thought she was make believe (from mam) aparently she died very young ......this is great the others are

Leonard A Richardson 1936
Brian Richarsdon 1934
Alan Richardson 1933
Sheila Richardson 1931 (my nana)
June Richardson 1929

and other than Mona I could never find
William/Billy Richardson
John Richardson - apart from that Harland one
Matthew Richardson

I do however know that Thomas was the oldest and Leonard was the Youngest  oooooh its getting exciting again
and they were all born in houghton as Elizabeth died in the same house she lived in at the time of marriage

I'm over the moon you've found Mona Thanx so much
love Jo x x x x x x x x

[deb usa]

ooo YIPPEEEEE ...so Mona was real .... can't see a death at the moment ...will look for the others

deb