Meshach Williams / Margaret Hussey Burgh

[Cajondy]

Almost a year later and I've managed to make a trip to Cernioge Mawr where I promptly knocked on the door (cheeky if nothing else!)

The occupants kindly allowed me to take photos - indeed still an inpressive location with stunning views..The long barn is indeed still there, as are the stables over the road and several out buildings (in various states of repair / disrepair)

I then ventured to various other locations in the area - seeking a local sage - and discovered more interesting history about the place... I'm sure you will all probably know this, but in case not, "Cernioge" means "mountain of stones" - and I'm reliably informed that Cernioge Mawr is currently approximately half it's original size...

A large quantity of the stones from the original Cernioge Mawr were used to build Cernioge Bach (nothing of course to do with MHB, but interesting local info nonetheless)

Whilst in the area I spent some time in the Ruthin records office, searching baptism's in Pentrfoelas for five years either side of MHB birth - but to no benefit... Unfortunatey, my trip to Wales had to be cut short (will I ever get time in my life for this exciting project!) so I was uable to check records of baptisms for Margaret Jones, born 1843. I will now have to save that for my annual trip next year!

It's interesting Rol, that through a most scientific proess you have deducted Eliazabeth Jones to be the mother of Margaret. I say interesting because the witness on Margaret's wedding certificate was  Elizabeth Jones. I must re-read your many updates to determine if this is pure coincidence, or if Elizabeth had not yet married when MHB got married in 1865.


I have a couple more days before returning to my manic work partern, and will try to do more research... Just thought I'd share what I've discovered since the last update, and thank you all once again for your very impressive and detailed updates. Wish to goodness I had more time to research this, it's driving me to the same place poor Job went (at least my work keeps me sane!)
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I also wish I had the skills and experience you all seem to have in researching things so thoroughly - though I suspect I'd get no sleep at all, as I'd be completely absorbed in reseaching!


thanks again everyone.... be in touch again soon (I hope!)
Cajondy

[wilcoxon]

http://freespace.virgin.net/jill.farndon25/J.html

376 Pentrefoelas Vol. 2 Baptisms 1813-1908, Burials 1813-1900
Jill Rose has updated her site with all Margaret Jones  bapt Pentrefoelas from this Vol.   Unfortunately she is not there.
Cerniogau bach is an abode in a couple of entries.
There was lots of hanky panky going on around Pentrefoelas judging by all the illegitimate children .

[Cajondy]

thank you so much for checking - most kind....

I wonder, do you (or anyone else reading this) know, if births in PentreFoelas way back in 1843 would be more likely to have been registered in Llanrwst, Ruthin or Corwen? I'm thinking Im going to have to buy every sinlge record of births from 1843 in the area to locate this dear lady's father for sure... Whilst I know from her marraige certificate his name, I'd somehow feel much more comfotable once I have her birth certificate (gulp, sounds like this could be very expensive!)

thank you all once agin

kind regards
Cajondy

[KHCYMROCANADA]

Hello all,

New arrival to the site, having taken over my mother's genealogy efforts and encountering a few dead ends.

My great grandmother on my father's side was Elizabeth Williams (married Richard Jones) who is the daughter of Meshach Williams and Margaret Hussey Burgh. 

Does anyone please know whether it was ever confirmed definitively that Margaret Hussey Burgh's biological parents were Eliza Anwyl (nee Jones) and John Hamilton Hussey de Burgh (son of Walter Hussey de Burgh of Caernarfon)?

Thanks in advance.

[Cajondy]

Welcome to roots chat
Still digging, and still not yet confirmed, but for sure - we are connected ☺️

[KHCYMROCANADA]

Thanks Cajondy.