Martin

[dragon266]

Hi all any one have any links to martins living in Nottingham have traced family back to a William Martin 1816 married to Sophia Marsh son Robert Ignatius 1839, Daughter Clara Martin 1841,Son William Martin 1845, Daughter Elizabeth Martin 1849.

[kiwihalfpint]

Hi dragon,

Sorry I can't help you with this thread, as I am on the other side of the world, but just to welcome you to Rootschat.    Beware this is addictive .... but it is fun. 

Cheers
KHP

[Nick29]

Welcome to Roots Chat ! 

I'm a Martin researcher myself.  I've got back to 1805 with mine !    (Mine are all SE London & Kent, see below).

The problem you'll have is that there are so many of them.  Most came over from France in the Norman invasions - Martin is the most common name in France (see the rankings table below)....

Rankings:

France: 1st most popular
Canada: 4th most popular
Australia: 9th most popular
Spain: 9th most popular (some say higher than that)
United States: 16th most popular
Argentina: 26th most popular
England & Wales: 28th most popular
Belgium: 31st most popular
Scotland: 37th most popular


So, it's quite likely that the further you manage to go back, the closer you'll get to Dover, Kent, where most of the Martins landed.  Once you're in Kent, it's a case of not seeing the wood for the trees !    Most of the Martins in France are supposed to be descended from St. Martin.

[dragon266]

Thanks for the Information wasn't aware of where name originated from back to 1816 so far but that has took a long time as had a wall of my grandfather. Dad was only child his dad died when he was young so wasn't a source of information. Found a lot of information from other contacts its amazing how helpful every one is.

[Nick29]

Yes, I had much the same problem - my father's mother died when he was 6, and he had a very unhappy childhood, and he ran away from home as soon as he could.  He never kept in touch with his family, and the only thing I had when I started his side of the tree was a photo of his parents (whose name I didn't know), and I vaguely recalled that he was born in Islington, North London.  Unfortunately, my mother and father had both died by the time I started researching my tree.

The people here are a great bunch, and they can help you out a lot, and they don't laugh when you make blunders (and I've made some classics !) 

[dragon266]

Great to hear problem I having now is trying not to spread to far as getting great results from census but tend to get carried away and have a load of info.
You had much success with your tree ?

[Nick29]

I've gone back to g. g. grandfather on the Martin side (1805), and I'm waiting for some Bromley Kent parish records to arrive at the LDS centre to try to get back some more.   My g.g. grandfather and his brother were married to two sisters from Hertfordshire, and the birth place for one brother is recorded on the census as "Middlesex, London", and the other is "Plaistow, Kent" (a suburb of Bromley, now part of Greater London).  The Martin males in my tree were all bricklayers and labourers, so they tended to move around a bit.

I've had rather more success with other branches, but it's very frustrating to only get back as far as 1805 in your family name 

[dragon266]

Have't ventured out of 1800's yet still using census records only fairly new on whole subject.

[Sherwood]

Hi there Dragon,

I have a William George Martin, b1815, Lyons, France (not verified yet) married to Sophia Marsh Chr 25-Aug-1816, St Mary's, Nottingham.

Children:

William George, b abt 1835/36 (YOU SUGGEST 1845 - WE NEED TO CHECK SOURCES), Nottm, m to Emma Mills, 5 children listed. One of these, Emma Augusta, b abt 1873 married Herbert Hattersley (b Sheffield abt 1872).  One of their sons, Frederick Roy Hattersley, married Enid Brackenbury and had a son Roy in 1932 (former Deputy Leader of Labour Party).

John Francis, b abt 1837, skant information.

Robert Ignatious, b 03-Aug-1839, Chr 18-Aug-1839, St Barnabas, Nottm. Married twice, Mary Ann Mann (2 sons) and Elizabeth Ann Baines (10 children).

Clara, b abt Mar-1841, Nottm.  Believed to have married into Gerrard family (soapmakers).

Elizabeth, b abt 1848/49. Skant information; lodging at Narrow Marsh in 1851.

I found a William Martin in 1871 but Census said born L'pool.  maybe an enumerator error if it should have been Lyons?  I inherited someone else's "research" that suggested he was a lace draughtsman.  BMD has a death entry 1890Q4 in Nottm, age 75, could be him.  The same research suggests that William's father was b abt 1790, also in Lyons.


Robert Ignatious is my rellie.  If on of the others is your rellie we probably need to swap more details.

Sherwood.