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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #99 on: Friday 29 December 23 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Sinaan for posting the link to the marriage image. Because the pdf link did not come up as blue  when I put it in the post I was not sure it would work, whereas I had seen links to the irishgenealogy site that had worked in posts. Again it did not show up as blue until after it was posted.

But now I know the pdf will work also.

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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #100 on: Friday 29 December 23 00:29 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I have the marriage of James Milford and Joyce Bryson, daughter of Robert. We’re pretty sure James Milford was the grandson of my 4th ggf John W Bryson d. 1836. His father was John Milford and we’re fairly certain that John Milford married an unknown daughter of John W Bryson who probably died in childbirth or soon after James was born. John W. left a bequest to “my grandson James Milford of Ireland” in his 1836 will and John W’s son Charles left a bequest to “my nephew James Milford, County Antrim, Ireland” in 1884. 

I don’t know much about the Gawns relationship with the Brysons. From what I have James Bryson d. 1832 only had one son, John and one daughter, Joice. His son John had five or six children including a John d. 1859 whose will is a treasure trove of that branches family members. I do think 1832 James was the brother of my 5th ggf. I keep asking the ancestral gods to give me a good hint….but alas…no answer.

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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #101 on: Friday 29 December 23 07:28 GMT (UK) »
...my eye was caught by the marriage in 1849 of Joyce Bryson of Ballybracken, aged 21,  daughter of Robert.

arty 1 Name   JAMES MILFORD
Party 2 Name   JOYCE BRYSON
Date of Event   31 August 1849
Group Registration ID   3189748
SR District/Reg Area   Antrim
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Here's the URL marriage link, for others reading-
Marriage at 2nd Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1849/09360/5389457.pdf


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #102 on: Friday 29 December 23 07:43 GMT (UK) »

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..2nd Ballyeaston Presbyterian Church

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https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4224782#map=17/54.77183/-6.00218


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo


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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #103 on: Sunday 07 January 24 12:54 GMT (UK) »
James Bryson d. 1909 was the son of Robert Bryson and Margaret Warwick and the grandson of James Bryson from Covelodge.  The James Bryson d. 1832 had two children John d.1841 and Joice d. 1862. John had several children including John d. 1859 whose will I sent you.

James Bryson d. 1909 lived on the Ballyvoy property as he took the lease over from John d. 1841 after he died. James's descendents are the current owners and inherited the property which includes Covelodge, a home that was one and a half stories but now two stories, the original stone cottage and a stone cottage that only the foundation exists now. 

That's the info I have from the current residents of the property. I haven't found any other records for children of James Bryson d. 1832 other than the will which lists Joice.  :)

I’m not convinced ;)  Here is James Bryson’s marriage to Agnes in which his father is given as James Bryson (not Robert):

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1855/09484/5437271.pdf

And I’ve just found the will of James Bryson (1850) in which he names a son James:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ8-MQ73?i=238&cat=232751

He also refers to his daughter Margaret, wife of Charles Bryson – so we know this James Bryson who died in 1850 is the same James Bryson who was of Cove Lodge in 1835.

James Bryson (d. 1909) was apparently buried in the same plot as James Bryson of Ballyvoy (d. 1832), but I suppose that isn’t proof he was a grandson. 


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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #104 on: Sunday 07 January 24 13:08 GMT (UK) »
James Bryson of Ballyvoy/Cove Lodge also had daughters Elizabeth Shaw Bryson* and Mary Jane Bryson.  I don’t know what happened to Mary Jane, but Elizabeth Shaw married Robert Semple in 1850:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09380/5397371.pdf

Hugh Semple was a witness to the above marriage as well as James Bryson’s (1850) will.

Robert Semple and Elizabeth Shaw Bryson had several children between 1851 and 1866 – baptisms can be found here:

http://www.doaghancestry.co.uk/search-family-names/kilbride-presbyterian-baptisms/

Robert and Elizabeth died a month apart aged 88 and 95, and their deaths are registered on the same page:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05446/4523652.pdf

*James Bryson (d. 1832) and James Bryson (d. 1850) both had wives called Elizabeth.  Probably Shaw was the maiden name of one of them.

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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #105 on: Sunday 07 January 24 13:47 GMT (UK) »
PRONI T956/146

5th May 1853.  Indenture between Robert Bryson of Ballyvoy, carpenter, 1st, and John Bryson of Ballyvoy, farmer, 2nd. 

Whereas by lease dated 1st Jun 1812 between Marquis of Donegall 1st; James Bryson of Ballyvoy 2nd, Donegall granted Bryson the land called Duncansland containing 80a 22p (then in the occupation of said James Bryson as assignee of Patrick Allen by virtue of a lease thereof granted by Donegall to Patrick Allen dated 14th Aug 1769) to hold for 61 years from 1st May then past, at yearly rent of £22-5s.

And whereas the estate and interest of the said James Bryson the lessee in a portion of said lands comprising 6a 1r are become vested in said Robert Bryson.

And whereas the said John Bryson hath agreed with Robert for the absolute purchase of said portion of said demised lands and premises and every part thereof formerly called Morrow’s Land, from the head of the wetland down to the river, for the price of £100.

Robert Bryson acknowledges receipt of said £100 an grants John Bryson said 6a 1r in the townland of Ballyvoy, for the remainder of the 61 years from 1812, and subject to repayment of a proportionate part of aid rent.

Witnessed by Francis Ferguson and James Ramsey.

ROD Memorial 1853/12/225.


The identification of Robert Bryson as a carpenter is useful, because that is how he is described in the marriages of his daughters Margaret and Martha in 1865.  Those names match the nieces mentioned in the will of John Bryson of Ballyvoy (1859).



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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #106 on: Sunday 07 January 24 14:55 GMT (UK) »
I had the 1832 James figured out at one point but I would have to go through it all again. The 1909 James took over Covelodge from d. 1841 John. There is a transfer in Proni. From there I've forgotten how the James d 1909 came to be buried in the same plot.  I think it was by inheritance or something as the James d1832 line had died off. I honestly don't remember.  I'll pull the file out and take a look. I know I had it figured out and gave it to the Bryson family currently living there. They inherited the property but aren't sure who from.

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Re: Donegore - Bryson-Wilson
« Reply #107 on: Sunday 07 January 24 15:31 GMT (UK) »
This looks like the widow of James Bryson (d. 1850) of Ballyvoy / Cove Lodge:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06378/4830366.pdf

Registered by her grandson William Bryson of Duncansland (the son of James Bryson) who was born in 1865.  He also registered the deaths of his mother in 1898 and father in 1909.