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Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« on: Wednesday 01 October 08 12:46 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm new to the forum so would welcome advice from you old hands.

I have the birth certificate of my great-grandfather William Cruddace born 1853 in Newcastle. It lists his parents as William Cruddace and Elizabeth Nixon. I cannot find a marriage for William and Elizabeth or any trace of them on 1861, 1851 or 1841 census. I've tried all counties in case they moved about but still drawn a blank. Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot
Chris

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Re: Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 13:18 BST (UK) »
What was the father's occupation?
Could they have skipped over the border to Scotland?

when & where did "great-grandfather William Cruddace" Marry?

is this him in Durham 1861?
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8767&iid=DURRG9_3720_3725-0136&fn=William&ln=Cruddas&st=d&ssrc=&pid=12423984

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Re: Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 13:59 BST (UK) »
According to the birth certificate William's father was a labourer (as was William himself on the 1881 census)

I don't know where or when William's parents married, just their names from the birth certificate - William Cruddace and Elizabeth Nixon. They were living in the St John's district of Newcastle at the time of his birth in 1853. I've tried a census search using every spelling variation I can think of but none of them seem to match up. I didn't try Scotland, although I'm not sure why a labourer would travel that far as there seemed to be plenty of labouring work in Newcastle. Will give it a go though.

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Re: Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 17:07 BST (UK) »
Hi
Welcome to rootschat.
I wonder if Dad died and mother remarried. If so, he might be under her new name?  Can you give the reference for the 1881 census that you have for your gt grandfather William?  There seem to be several that it could be.  Who did he marry?
Andrea


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Re: Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 17:28 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this is relevant but in 1871 there is a William Cruddas grandson of Jane Savage in Newcastle  RG10 5090 55 22
Jane Savage 78 b Beverley Yorks
James Cruddas 20 gson lab b Carlisle
William Cruddas 18 gson lab b Newcastle
Margaret Cruddas 16 gdau b Newcastle

Worth keeping on the back burner just in case.    I cannot find them earlier.
Andrea

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Re: Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 17:43 BST (UK) »
Until I put this search into the IGI I had no idea how many variant spellings there are for the name.  Some I would never have thought of.    Crewdis/Crowdis/Crewdis etc.    It does seem to be predominantly in the north though.
Andrea

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Re: Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 19:06 BST (UK) »

is this him in Durham 1861?
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=view&r=5538&dbid=8767&iid=DURRG9_3720_3725-0136&fn=William&ln=Cruddas&st=d&ssrc=&pid=12423984


I know this Cruddas family! This William's parents are Thomas Cruddas and Sophia Wilson

I am also a Cruddace searcher so I will see if I can find anything.....

Claire
Bettington/Mattey (Herefordshire) Jones (Wales/Shropshire) Forsyth (Durham) Nicholls (Sedgeley) Wright (N Yorkshire) Hankinson (Lancashire) Wray (yorkshire) Gray (Alton Hampshire)
Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
Williamson (Durham) Hughes (Wales Bangor) Wiseman (Suffolk)
Rawlings(Glos) Smart (Glos) Bettsworth (Hamps) Dalton(Yorks) Robinson (Yorks/Dur)

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Re: Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 19:40 BST (UK) »
All I have found out so far is that he wasn't baptised in St John's in 1853 (he could of course have been baptised after that but the Bishop's Transcripts don't go after 1853)

Will keep looking

Claire
Bettington/Mattey (Herefordshire) Jones (Wales/Shropshire) Forsyth (Durham) Nicholls (Sedgeley) Wright (N Yorkshire) Hankinson (Lancashire) Wray (yorkshire) Gray (Alton Hampshire)
Rouse (Oxfordshire) Waterhouse (Leicestershire) Ironmonger (Leicestershire) Cruddace (Durham) Young (Durham/Northbld)
Price (Blackburn/Wales) Turnbull (Durham) Walker (Durham)
Williamson (Durham) Hughes (Wales Bangor) Wiseman (Suffolk)
Rawlings(Glos) Smart (Glos) Bettsworth (Hamps) Dalton(Yorks) Robinson (Yorks/Dur)

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Re: Cruddas / Cruddace family from Newcastle
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 October 08 20:01 BST (UK) »
The trouble is that there do seem to be a few possibles so I would like to see census records so that we are sure it is the right birth certificate!   Chrislats - do you have a marriage certificate for gt grandad?
Andrea