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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #315 on: Monday 08 June 09 11:26 BST (UK) »
Dear Jenn,
.....that certainly could be a possibility.......wonder where they got married though as all states have been checked!

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Susie
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #316 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 00:41 BST (UK) »
Susie I am unable to find the CASAS name in any other state other than WA in that era.

Perhaps a browse of the electoral rolls for WA for the early 1900's.

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http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/pdf/battye/pods/1899/0207.pdf
http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/pdf/battye/pods/1899/0064.pdf
Look for Austral Club...Mrs Julian CACAS, proprietress.

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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #317 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 00:54 BST (UK) »
I  noted  that  when  doing an engine search ( probably  shouldn't mention  which one)  that there appears  to be Casas wine produced  in  the Margaret River Area of Western Australia.

Also  looking at PO directories  there appears to be a couple of Casas as restaurant owners.

Pity  we don't have anyone with access to immigration  details for Western Australia  to see where  the Casas family  came from

I  wonder if  they  never married or  perhaps  the marriage details were not recorded properly.


I  wonder if she (Jane Catherine)  was a witness at Therese Wawick Hutton's marriage.

Jenn
Oh  If  only all of  the States BDM's on line were instantly purchasable if  that is correct English as we can do with NSW and Victoria.  IT  would be a very good income for  the states  with  all  those genealogists out  there wanting a certificate right now!!!!! However,  then   we  could all spend  far too much on  research!!!!!
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #318 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 01:14 BST (UK) »
Another thought here,  I  wonder did  the two Hutton  girls go to  Western Australia to visit or live with  their uncle Janes Henry Horace Downey?

Jenn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #319 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 01:23 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Looks like there are a lot of Casas records in the American rolls........with most of them born in Cuba and Mexico........if that is the case for Julian (senior), then doesn't this get interesting!!!!! Doesn't seem to be a marriage that fits, nor is there any in NZ.

Cando,
Looks like Jane ran restaurants in WA......wonder if that was the case when she was at Kogorah....although by 1936 she would have been nearing 70.....looks like Julian carried on the family tradition as in the 1930 roll he is listed as chief chef.

Jenn,
Thanks for the heads up re Casas wines etc......I will follow up. It would be great to know of Jane was a witness at the 1898 wedding of Theresa......she was certainly in WA at the time giving birth that year....although Mt Margaret (where Theresa married) is about 400 kms from Coolgardie where Jane was birthing! (Hell of a trip!!!!)

I think I have a possible contact in WA who might just have that certificate.....I will let the board know if I get a result!!!!

Cheers
Susie




Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #320 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 02:34 BST (UK) »
.......alas.......no certificate!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'(

Cheers
Susie
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #321 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 06:47 BST (UK) »
Just found out that Julian Casas ran a Cafe in Gwalia, WA in 1909 called the Gwalia Block Cafe. He also opened a bank account there which references his Freemason Lodges at Gwalia along with his former lodge at Mount Morgans (which I believe is in Qld?????? unless this is a name for the lodge rather than a place name).

He wasn't listed in the 1906 or 1916 electoral rolls though......so his stay in Gwalia was short and sweet.......wonder if Jane was with him there?

Cheers
Susie
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire

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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #322 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 08:11 BST (UK) »
I  would be very interested to know where you  did  find  that information Susie

Mt. Morgan is indeed a town QLD west of Rockhampton and down a bit ;D

Perhaps  there is another in Western Australia?

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au

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Re: Robert HUTTON/ Catherine DOWNEY late 19th century
« Reply #323 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 08:17 BST (UK) »
Dear Jenn,
I found Julian Casas in the WA Post office Directory at the State Library of WA, and then located Gwalia and found that it is a ghost town and that they had a museum, so I emailed the museum and had a reply back two hours later.....very chuffed I was!!!!!
They have access to old Commonwealth bank records for the town, and sure enough, he had an account!

Now.........the questions are.......were the family with him in Gwalia, and did they/he travel to Queensland prior to 1909???

Cheers
Susie
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Hutton : Edinburgh, Scotland
Downey : England
Ingram: St George East, Middlesex and New Zealand
Roberts : Grafton, NSW
Blackadder : Grafton, NSW
Gillett : Grafton, NSW
Brocklebank :Carkettle, Lancashire
Bowes : Ulverston, Lancashire
Rose : Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire, Scotland
Kelleher:County Cork, Ireland
Shepherd : Helpringham, Lincolnshire